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California's PG&E cuts power to more than 1M residents to prevent wildfires
FOX Business ^ | October 9, 2019

Posted on 10/09/2019 10:53:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: aquila48

Yup, check the windy.com WX site, I have no idea where they’re getting the “galeforce” winds from. I’m in the Bay area as well, My sister in St Helena, (who had to evacuate because of the last two conflagrations up there) had her power shut off last night. Windy.com shows 2 mph winds with 12 mph as the max over the next two days in St. Helena. Her winery is closed due to the power outage. (I think they only shut down one day during the big fires.) She said the impact will be terrible for all the wineries in mid-harvest (Hers is complete). The economic impact of this stunt will be far-reaching!! It is shameful!


61 posted on 10/09/2019 11:53:12 AM PDT by TMD (Behind Enemy Lines (SF bay area)....)
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To: KC Burke

re: “The state won’t allow a rate increase for burial of lines like we do elsewhere so you pay for lawsuits and power loss.”

NOT an option for HV transmission lines; the line ‘load’ become highly capacitive (with AC) with a really out-of-whack “power factor” ...

Also, repair of buried lines is s NIGHTMARE compared to simple overhead construction.


62 posted on 10/09/2019 12:00:19 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Notice that most of the blackouts are in Republican dominated northern California?


63 posted on 10/09/2019 12:02:17 PM PDT by gdzla (Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo)
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To: aquila48

My electric bill for the business is higher than rent (in Silicon Valley) during the summer.


64 posted on 10/09/2019 12:03:02 PM PDT by caltaxed (ake)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So in that socialist utopia, when the wind blows, they shut off your electricity? How unique!


65 posted on 10/09/2019 12:06:54 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: faithhopecharity

Solano County (Fairfield, CA) is the city around Travis AFB. It is on the list to be blacked out.

Vandenburg AFB still have power?

Further south: The Marine bases, navy airfields?


66 posted on 10/09/2019 12:18:46 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Emissaries from Venezuela reported to be called in for political, technical and economic advice./s


67 posted on 10/09/2019 12:20:04 PM PDT by Don Corleone (nothing upsets the left more than the truth)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I fully understand this situation you are in, it’s why we left there. You are on a sinking ship and you are helpless to save it no matter how hard you personally try. We had to leave with nothing but the shirt on our backs and start all over again elsewhere to get free of it. Was it an inconvenience and sacrifice? Absolutely, but our very survival depended on it because we saw this coming.

The higher wages and weather were just not worth the real true cost. The hard thing was family, but because we stood strong on our decision, they eventually woke up and decided to also follow suit.

Freedom and peace of mind is worth something too, and I feel for your plight because this peace of mind will never happen in Ca again. But now this same oppression is being imposed on us who did leave to get away from it. And if the other states do not inoculate themselves against the disease, they are destined to contract it too.

And the last thing that should be imposed on the rest of us is their medical bills to try and treat a disease that is completely incurable. I apologize, but at some point the rest of us have no choice but to draw a line with supporting the insanity that will indeed eventually take us all down with it too.

We are old enough to remember when Ca was not like this at all. It WAS a nice place to live...


68 posted on 10/09/2019 12:24:04 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Rebelbase

“fierce winds knocking down or toppling trees into power lines”

Not to stick up for PG&E, but if a tree falls onto a line and starts a fire that costs a bunch to recover from, who should pay?

Should PG&E have cleared all trees that could fall on a power line?

When a forest fire, which always starts as something relatively small, spreads over a wide area, do those that manage and live in the forest bear some responsibility?

That destructive fire that occurred a year or so ago — was that the first fire that has been blamed on PG&E’s lines?


69 posted on 10/09/2019 12:25:48 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Electrical outages are like this in the third world. CA=3rd world.


70 posted on 10/09/2019 12:31:40 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: bboop

Edison is doing the same in the inland empire today.


71 posted on 10/09/2019 12:36:44 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!at)
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To: _Jim

Additional aerial marker balls in between the supports would prevent lines from slapping together in the wind. The equal wind drag created would stabilize them, and prevent them from swinging around towards each other. But do you think they would spend any money on this? I don’t think so, corporate officers might not get their bonuses because of this additional cost.


72 posted on 10/09/2019 12:37:36 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: bboop

Edison is doing the same in the inland empire today.


73 posted on 10/09/2019 12:37:52 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!at)
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To: Openurmind

We have left as well.

Oh for those of you planning your escape, CA will be providing you with an exit tax of around 14% interest if you make more than a half a mil, but I am fairly sure that the half a mil includes the sale of real estate. So you can expect a hefty tax bill attachment included in your right to leave the state.


74 posted on 10/09/2019 12:38:29 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Will the last responsible person leaving California, please turn out the lights.)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Solano County cities including Fairfield, Suisun, and Vacaville are on the black out list

Vandenberg (Santa Maria) is served by Southern California Edison, a different company from PGE, no blackout list

San Diego is served by San Diego Gas and Electric, yet another company, no blackout list


75 posted on 10/09/2019 12:39:21 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Any bets that Amazon is selling a lot of solar phone chargers.


76 posted on 10/09/2019 12:39:28 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: markman46

A little help for those of us part time residents of rio Linde......

Is Edison a California electric utility fearing law suits being brought by alleged wild fires resulting from electric line defects?

Who is edison?


77 posted on 10/09/2019 12:41:23 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

my mistake about Santa Maria-Vandenburg area, it is still PGE

but outside the black out zone, so far anyway


78 posted on 10/09/2019 12:42:53 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Robert A Cook PE

DARN!
i made a second booboo

Santa Maria IS on the PGE blackout list!!!! even though it is nearly 400 miles from the fires

(the AFB is a few miles out of town so I do not know if it will still get power or not, sorry)


79 posted on 10/09/2019 12:44:47 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: polymuser
Isn’t FreeRepublic’s home in Fresno?

If I remember correctly the servers are located in San Jose about 2+ hours from Fresno.

80 posted on 10/09/2019 12:45:42 PM PDT by EVO X
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