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The Disturbing Reason Why the Dems Really Want to Impeach Trump
front page mag ^ | Sep 25, 2019 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 09/25/2019 5:18:57 AM PDT by Mount Athos

Like two rabid dogs fighting over the same rotten bone, the Democrats are in the middle of a civil war over impeachment. The Democrat leadership wants to defeat President Trump by winning an election, but its leftist hard core will settle for nothing less than impeachment even if it means four more years.

Speaker Pelosi opposes impeachment because she’s seen the numbers. Impeachment polls badly with independents, would increase turnout among Republicans, and doesn’t even score well with Democrats. The impeachment obsession has led to the perception among a majority of voters that the House is focused on going after President Trump to the exclusion of all else. Like actual bread-and-butter issues.

Unlike the average ActBlue donor and San Francisco billionaire, the average voter doesn’t actually want his elected officials spending all their time holding three hundred hearings about Trump every week.

So why the unpopular impeachment push that can’t succeed because of the composition of the Senate?

Voters don’t like impeachment because they want to be the ones to remove politicians from office. Pelosi is asking the Left to let the voters do that just in 2020. But for the Left, that’s exactly the point.

Impeachment isn’t about punishing whatever imaginary crime involving whatever country was hit by a dart thrown at a world atlas this week in the offices of the New York Times and the Washington Post. The same media operatives who claimed that President Trump was a Russian spy are now insisting that he’s working with the Ukrainians, whose country was invaded and partially annexed by Russia. By next month, Trump may be accused of secretly colluding with the Netherlands, Burundi or Australia.

The purpose of Random Treason Accusation #17 has always been justifying the use of surveillance, espionage and secret evidence against the political opposition. Or Watergate to the power of ten.

The Russia election hacking accusation and the current Ukraine smear have the common purpose of delegitimizing an election. The Russia lie was about delegitimizing 2016. The Ukraine lie is a preemptive effort at delegitimizing the 2020 election in case Biden is the nominee and Trump is the winner.

Impeachment plugs into the same narrative which is not just about winning, but delegitimizing.

Democrats want to win elections. Radicals want to delegitimize the entire idea of elections. Pelosi wants to win an election. The radicals don’t want to win elections. They want to destroy them. Their real goal is to use blind hatred of Republicans to convince Democrats that elections are inherently illegitimate. All their arguments, whether about Russian Facebook bots or the Electoral College circle back to that.

The choosing of governments, it follows, is too important an issue to be left to mere voters whose voting machines and brains are all too easily hacked by disinformation campaigns and FOX News.

And the removal of President Trump from office is also too important to be left to those same voters.

Lefties have made it very clear that they would rather, practically or symbolically, reverse the results of the 2016 election than focus on winning in 2020 because of the larger principle at stake. The second part of the principle appears in every media piece pushing impeachment. It hinges on President Trump’s alleged unfitness for office. The first part of the principle is the unfitness of the voters to choose leaders.

Elections are a humiliating process that force lefties to lie to voters, hide their agendas, and appeal to the people they despise to be allowed to rule them. Even when they win, a sour taste lingers afterward.

The Left desperately wants impeachment proceedings because it wants to exercise direct power.

People wonder what the Left really wants? Post-gender bathrooms, banning cows, and paying reparations to drug dealers are just random policies. They’re not the endgame.

Unless the Democrats take the Senate, impeachment would be a meaningless show trial. But Marxist regimes love show trials of political opponents. The Marxist element in the House desperately wants a show trial of President Trump because such a proceeding is an explicit rejection of our political system.

The push to impeach President Trump did not begin organically with a crime allegedly committed in office, but began before he even took office and, in some elements of the media, before he even won. The premise of impeachment has always been an inherent unfitness. The actual basis for impeachment has always been a corollary to that claim of an inherent unfitness that preceded even the election.

Inherent unfitness expresses the idea that the voters never had any right to elect President Trump.

Impeachment is not just meant to be a trial of President Trump, but of the voters who chose him. Its outcome, whatever the composition of the Senate, is meant to be an argument for remaking the system of elections, whether by abolishing the Electoral College or tampering with the judiciary, that would take the power further out of the hands of the voters and concentrate them with the right sorts of people.

The right sorts of people usually being wealthy and influential lefties in California and New York.

But the real appeal of impeachment is more emotional than strategic. President Trump’s victory threatened lefties by suggesting that, despite the Obama era, they are not actually in control.

"Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship," O'Brien tells the hapless Winston Smith in the novel 1984. "The object of power is power."

Marxist regimes love show trials because they allow them to destroy and humiliate their enemies.

"How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?" O'Brien asks.

"By making him suffer," Winston replies.

Outside the media and social media, where the purges of cancel culture are a daily event, the Left lacks the power to regularly drag its political enemies before its bar, to put them on trial and break them. And yet it craves that terrible power above all else. All its obsessions, political correctness, cancel culture, political protests, demonization and impeachment bend toward that consuming evil obsession.

The Mueller investigation enraptured lefties with its spectacle of police state tactics, night raids, prolonged interrogations, eavesdropping, and then finally trials that bankrupted their opponents.

Nothing else, not even winning in 2020, excites the Left as much as the prospect of more show trials.

That’s why it must have impeachment even if attaining it will destroy its chances of victory.

Impeaching Trump isn’t about him. It’s a Rorschach test that reveals the ugly inkblot of the leftist soul. Its real purpose is for an ugly totalitarian movement to live out its fantasy of casting aside the vestiges of democracy, divesting itself of the illusions of representative government and holding a show trial.

Leftists speak less about equality these days than about justice. This is the justice they have in mind.

Their vision of utopia isn’t equality or progress, it’s trial after trial, an endless series of proceedings against Trump and you and me, and Bob next door, who votes Democrat, but once used the term “illegal alien” in a conversation. The nightmares of the French Revolution, the Soviet Union, Communist China and Pol Pot’s Cambodia weren’t accidental misfires: they’re the essential truth of what the Left is.

Terror is in the political DNA of every radical movement. And the arc of the Left is always radical.

“Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever,” 1984’s O’Brien rhapsodizes.

Impeachment is a feverish effort by the Left to live out this evil fantasy. It’s one of a million show trials that the radicals who are taking over the Democrats envision, not just for Trump, but for America.


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1 posted on 09/25/2019 5:18:57 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos
Rats' money from our domestic enemies must be really drying up.


2 posted on 09/25/2019 5:21:04 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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The “GET EVEN” impeachment:

<><> Hillary lost (sob).
<><> $ix-figure sinecures, Cabinet appointments, multiple pensions...ALL GONE.
<><> Obama’s third term....GONE.
<><> the USSC and 40 years of social justice...GONE.
<><> Dems lost power (sob).
<><> Dems cant exist without power.

The current crop of 2020 candidates are NoWheres-ville.

With another power vacuum looming, there was nothing left for Pelosi.....the Dems HAVE to impeach.


3 posted on 09/25/2019 5:23:43 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Mount Athos

The Dems ARE in civil war mode.


4 posted on 09/25/2019 5:25:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Mount Athos

There are several possible leading reasons:

1) Fundraising from the base. The Dems are significantly behind.

2) The next SCOTUS appointment. Knowing that the President is likely to be reelected, the Dems believe that if a President is under impeachment investigation, that can be used to prevent a nominee for SCOTUS

3) Damned if they do and Damned if they dont. Dems/swamp critters are losing their power to implement socialism under President Trump. Their loss of power has become so obvious that they no longer fear a loss during the election.

4) Got to show something. The Dems have not been able to show anything as a positive action to their base as a result of being elected. So they have to be able to say “look at what we did” about something.


5 posted on 09/25/2019 5:28:32 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: Mount Athos

Only the year was wrong.


6 posted on 09/25/2019 5:29:38 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Mount Athos

So will Hillary be president if he’s removed? I really think there’s a large percentage of Democrats who believe that that’s the deal.


7 posted on 09/25/2019 5:32:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Mount Athos

Chilling, but I believe accurate.

The “outing” of the Left and their end game wasn’t supposed to happen. That it has happened so swiftly is all to the credit of our president and his unceasing efforts to inform the American public of the true character of the liberals.

This may be his greatest legacy.


8 posted on 09/25/2019 5:33:06 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL. I agree that some people seem to think that. Hillary came in second place in 2016, right? If Trump is removed, then the second place finisher moves up and becomes president, right?

But perhaps Vice President Pence would disagree.


9 posted on 09/25/2019 5:34:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: taxcontrol

I would add that the left isn’t just trying to get rid of Trump. It’s about delegitimizing the IG reports on FISA abuse which will take down the deep state.


10 posted on 09/25/2019 5:35:07 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

hmm


11 posted on 09/25/2019 5:41:11 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

“impeachment” is all about the criminal treasonous operations of the DC Establishment who are ALL panicking that We the People might truly discover who they are and exactly what they’ve been doing to the country for the last 50 years

GHW Bush himself admitted as much

“George Herbert Walker Bush: ‘Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.’ That is a famous 1992 quote by George Herbert Walker Bush to Sarah McLendon, a Texas journalist who Bush had known for years and who was the grand dame of the White House press corps at the time. McLendon had asked Bush: ‘What will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra”

And that’s just ONE of hundreds of similar issues We the People have with their DC employees...


12 posted on 09/25/2019 5:41:23 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: Mount Athos

This article is why they (the Left) want your guns.


13 posted on 09/25/2019 5:43:00 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Mount Athos
The demonicrat youngsters are just fronts for the deep state. The deep state is funding them so they have to take orders form their handlers. I think pelosI wanted to wait till closer to the election for their election smear in an attempt to beat President Trump.
14 posted on 09/25/2019 5:44:05 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

The Democrats don’t have a big enough dustpan to sweep up all the stray voters that have left their base. Nancy is gonna need a bigger broom.


15 posted on 09/25/2019 5:46:49 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Mount Athos

Is it a civil war when bank robbers shoot it out with the police?

Or is it just thieves trying to keep from going to prison?

Is it a civil war when bank robbers go on tv to complain that the police are mean to them?

Or is it just thieves trying to keep from going to prison?

Is it a civil war when bank robbers fight using every legal and administrative means against the police?

Or is it just thieves trying to keep from going to prison?

There certainly are some leftists and revolutionaries and psychopaths in the Democrat Party, but like bushes in front of a sewage lagoon, they are only there to distract from the crap that is behind them.

And the crap that is behind them is the thieving Democrats.

Most of the Democrat politicians don’t get into politics to kick Conservatives in the head.

They get into politics to steal big money.


16 posted on 09/25/2019 5:47:22 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Mount Athos

“Impeachment is not just meant to be a trial of President Trump, but of the voters who chose him. “

Yup, they are at war.


17 posted on 09/25/2019 5:48:40 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (You cannot solidify control and power over people who are able to defend themselves.)
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To: Mount Athos

I think it would be Justice if all the seditionists and traitors were charged, given fair trials and when convicted of their many and ongoing crimes were thrown into Fed SuperMax for the rest of their worthless lives or hanged on live television. One can dream.


18 posted on 09/25/2019 5:51:11 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: Mount Athos

There is nothing he’s doing wrong, all his efforts produce success and fulfill his campaign language.

How on earth could they campaign against this President based on his nearly wholesale success?

So....try the ‘impeachment route. That way, Liberals will have SOMETHING to say at their convention.

Otherwise there’s nothing for them to campaign on.

The MSM enjoys all this too. 24/7 Impeachment hype is great for selling newspapers!!

It’s the worst kind of tabloid journalism, once reserved for smarmy entertainers and lightweight public figures.

That was back when no real ‘journalist’ would publicly acknowledge the existence of tabloid news, and certainly never admit to reading it, much less stoop to emulating that style or writing FOR such disreputable ‘news’ organizations.

Of course, now that every MSM ‘journalist’ and consumer of this tabloid drivel is actually an unprincipled and self-avowed media whore… everything is reduced to the 5th grade level.

Don’t expect improvement of this. Too many criminally unprofessional losers are making careers out of it, and too many voters find it right at their level of comprehension.


19 posted on 09/25/2019 5:51:12 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: Mount Athos

Thanks for posting the article.

“Elections are a humiliating process that force lefties to lie to voters, hide their agendas, and appeal to the people they despise to be allowed to rule them. Even when they win, a sour taste lingers afterward. “


20 posted on 09/25/2019 5:51:28 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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