Posted on 09/19/2019 4:13:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin
You are saying that BEING the member of a group entitles you to speak about that group, ergo not being a similar member proscribes talking about that group.
That's reasoning outside of classic liberalism. That thinking is the polar opposite of liberalisim --it's TRIBALISM.
Do you know where I have most often heard the objection that, "Hey that Jew knows NOTHING about being Jewish..!"..?
From observant or conservative Jews, that's where I typically hear that. I have heard that very many times, and while I'm not Jewish, looking upon the subject I have agreed with their judgement 95% of the time; doesn't keep kosher, never visits temple, knows nothing about scripture, etc.
So the claim that being ethnically Jewish ipso facto makes a person "an expert on Jews" is wrong, although that is beside your actual point, which is more along the lines of, "since you are not Jewish, shut up about Jews."
But what we can see is that there are absolutely two different social standards for Jews and whites, since "good whites" are in every case expected to listen on placidly when people expound at great length on our Mass Media, declaring their extravagant Shame At Being White:
The most recent to prominently do this and make a buck is the non-comidienne Chelsea Chandler.
The trick here is that she understands that 98.1% of the USA does take her to be white and to THAT extent, she feels entitled to make a buck going on in this decidedly unfunny manner.
And so she doe$ --I believe that this is a very new and innovative Netflix special soon to come out, or has come out.
An excellent point, yes, and it is a bit schizophrenic.
A great point.
What is also funny is the growth in use of the term, "SELF HATING" and the closely related "SUICIDAL".
When things get heated you might have both sides sceaming that the OTHER is, "self-hating".
It's interesting but also hard to understand, sometimes.
A good example is Marx, who of course was Jewish but at various points has been described, strangely, as anti-semitic.
Sometimes I have to reach for aspirin.
yes it is often very difficult to discern just what logic, if any, exists inside the minds of bigots and other crazies
You have every right to speak about Jews. But i do know thing or two about Jewish identity (at least Ashkenazi) as I know many Ashkenazi Jews. I have never in my life personally met a Jew who said we are not white. Ive seen many stormfront Nazi type make that proclamation of course. Ive seen on Twitter, as you mention, the extreme outlier Jew deny white status. Ive also seen many a white man think hes a woman and a schizophrenic think hes an orange. Does that make them right? Plucking the outliers as representative of the whole is a poor and flawed method of defining reality.
You of all people know Jewish identity is complex. Theres an ethnic, religious and cultural component. Jews will say thats not a Jew no different than how the various Christian denominations claim purity over the other. Frankly, I agree with my conservative and orthodox brethren that Reform Jews arent really Jewish in the religious sense. If your synagogue has a lesbian rabbi, its not Jewish. There are many other examples. These references are in the religious and/or cultural sense, not ethnic. I agree with these beliefs, mostly. I am also not a practicing Jew and and am not religiously Jewish, only ethnically.
Handler and the celebrity jewish scumbags that I probably dislike more than you as they fuel the beliefs of people like you to believe the avg Jew like me shares the same ridiculous leftist views. We arent a monolith. There is an extremely vocal minority of left wing Jews who crowd the airwaves, politics and international business world who have views that a far, far larger share of average conservative, hardworking Jews dont share. Its a fallacy to conflate the two. (Typing on the phone, Excuse typos etc)
I agree strongly with much of what you said.
Driviing, sorry.
Very intersting post.
Here is what it boils down to: Pretty much the only ally the Jews have in the world is the American Christian, particularly the evangelicals. We must create a pathway for Jews find a home on the Right in America. We cannot in any way give power to the Marxist Jews (and they are commies before theyre Jews... in fact, most hate Judaism, which is a conservative and moral religion not in keeping at all with leftist ideals) to keep the critical mass of Jews on the Lefts plantation. Its imperative we do not tether all Jews to this vocal minority of communists with Jewish names. Its a major obstacle to flipping the Jewish demographic in our favor.
Not sure Im being very articulate, had a very long day working my ass off .... point is call out the commies Jews all you want, Ill do it with you... but calling out the commie Jews as Jews alienates a ton of Jews who we can flip to the Right with the right message. The Left has given us a great opportunity to do so with their open hatred of Jews.
Let me quote Churchill:
In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
He then labels them terrorists and apportions much of the blame to them for the Russian Revolution:
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others.
An amazing quote!
Thank you.
Churchill more or less nails it, as he usually does.
Its important to read the totality of the text the excerpt is from. He says more eloquently (hey... hes Churchill, Im just Levy78) what I have said in other posts on this thread.
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Shooting up a synagogue is inexcusable, just as it’s inexcusable to shoot up a church.
That said, to be fair to the shooter, Abe Foxman, the former head of the ADL did apparently voice a desire to commit genocide against whites by encouraging interbreeding between races, if this quote is of any indication:
“I speak OF THE DEATH OF THE WHITE RACE. The complete removal of all means of reproduction of the so-called Aryan race. Men, we now control the destiny of this race. It is now time to make sure the White race becomes extinct through miscegenation and having a virtually zero brith rate. We have all enjoyed the vision repeated all over this world every day of the last white children playing with little dark children and knowing that they are being set-up for their eventual destruction. We can ruin the ancient pure bloodline of an Aryan child by convincing him or her of the altruism of begetting interracial children. We must expose the race mixing of the urban centers to the suburbs and rural areas of this country. More aggressive programs to integrate these areas are now underway through HUD. It is worth any price to annihilate the next generation of White children. We want every White father to feel the sting of having their children marry colored males and produce biracial children.”
Now, I don’t give a darn about white supremacy or white matters regardless of it being my skin color. If someone likes another of a different race, whether it be white and black, black and Asian, white and Asian, you name it, fine, intermarry, but only if they actually want it in the first place with no outside influences (either via coercion or manipulation via subliminal elements). God himself has no problem with racial intermarriages AFAIK. However, when someone, not caring which ethnicity is speaking this, specifically advocates intermarriage and presumably forcing people to intermarry specifically to genocide out a particular race of people, no, that is not acceptable (and I find it to be insane anyways. He does realize that technically, he’s also committing genocide against Asians, blacks, and the like by encouraging intermarriage, right?).
That’s of course assuming the above quote is true, and there’s equally as much of a possibility that it was a false quote due to lacking a source beyond who said it. Though knowing how Foxman generally acts, I won’t be surprised if it is true.
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