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To: ClearCase_guy

OK, Looking for a fact based article to explain the climate debate. Not talking head stuff from Faux or CNN stuff, just climate debate for dummies. Wanting to understand the facts on both sides of argument.

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6 posted on 08/30/2019 9:38:12 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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8 posted on 08/30/2019 9:45:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: john316

you want facts?

1: Warming always happens first- then hundreds of years later CO2 rises- this is proven with ice core samples and other means- this means CO2 is NOT driving temperatures

2: There is nowhere near enough CO2 in the atmosphere to create a thick blanket of heat trapping CO2- the atmosphere has only got 0.00136% CO2 from man in it- 0.0036% is far too little to be causing even an iota of warming even if CO2 did cause warming- which it doesn’t

3: There are scientific reports stating that oceans have a kind of ‘turn over’ where they spew tons of CO2 out despite there being no warming of the oceans- (The oceans would need to warm to such a degree to spew CO2 that life would not thrive in such hot waters) meaning atmospheric CO2 rises in recent decades are not due to man as claimed by the alarmists- CO2 coming from the oceans is doing so via some other process than warming-

4: CO2 ppm were over 1000 ppm in the past and life still flourished- there is no ‘tipping point’ for CO2- we’re nowhere near what we were in the past- and if anything, we’re in a ‘CO2 starvation’ period

5: Check out climatedepot.org for many many scientific proofs that man isn’t causing climate change

CO2 is NOT driving temperatures- Warming ha happened for many reasons, but CO2 is not one of them


10 posted on 08/30/2019 9:56:05 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: john316

also look up the connection between sun spots and warming- that is where the warmign is coming from- you will find that info on cliamtedepot site-

one m ore point about CO2- science states that volcanoes don’t spew enough CO2 to account for the amount in atmosphere- yet they are finding out that volcano don’t release most the their CO2 during eruption, but afterwards- years later, when the volcanic ash dries out- the CO2 gets released then- creating many tons of CO2- science has underestimated the total amount of CO2 that volcanoes release-

But again, al that is moot- except to counter their arguments that the rise in atmospheric CO2 in past decades ‘must be from man’ - As the world warms from natural means, volcanic ash dries out more, releasing much more CO2- I think science is going to find many more massive sources of natural CO2- because remember, in the past, before the industrial age, levels were over 1000 ppm- it had to come fro m somewhere- and we know for a fact oceans could not have heated up enough to be the sole source or even major source of CO2 back then- life in the seas would have ceased for the seas to have become warmed enough to release that much CO2-

There are loads of facts that prove man isn’t responsible- just gotta dig a little- cliamtedepot is a great starting point- loads of peer reviewed articles there-


11 posted on 08/30/2019 10:04:31 AM PDT by Bob434
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