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Dad 'empty' after 9-year-old Detroit girl killed by dogs
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | August 20, 2019 | Jeff Karoub

Posted on 08/20/2019 1:54:47 PM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

There are many more. The average rate of “death by pit bull mauling” was about one every thirteen days last year in the USA and Canada. It appears to be about one every eleven days this year.

Statistics: https://blog.dogsbite.org/category/dog-bite-fatalities


81 posted on 08/22/2019 3:22:37 AM PDT by Norski
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To: artichokegrower

Lots of articles on the arrest of the owner.

But I cannot find even one article that names the perp.

Not even one.


82 posted on 08/22/2019 3:27:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: Toespi

” In addition, most pit bull and other aggressive breeds are mostly owned by anti-social and certain those of paranoid personalities.”
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/200903/psychological-characteristics-owners-aggressivedog-breeds


83 posted on 08/22/2019 3:27:57 AM PDT by Norski
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To: Doctor Freeze

I know this wasn’t in your question’s parameters but the best medicine for an aggressive pit bull is administered in doses of 9mm (or larger).


84 posted on 08/24/2019 11:09:47 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: 5th MEB
Of course I don’t allow any of my dogs to act out aggressively, the only bad ass in this family is their Daddy (me). 1: Sophie = Black Lab x German Shepherd mix. 2: George = Pure Bred Rottweiler. 3: Billy = Pure Bred Pit Bull. 4: Rosey = Pure Bred Australian Sheep Dog. 5: Heidi = Pure Bred German Shepherd. 6: Clifford = Pure Bred Turkish Kangal.

With a pack of dogs like this whose breeds tend to be on the aggressive side, you are asking for trouble. As a dog guy, you must know that a pack of dogs is much harder to control than a individual dog. I hope you live way out in the middle of nowhere. If you live in an urban setting, I would bet that your neighbors think far less highly of your dogs.

85 posted on 08/24/2019 11:24:37 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: CommerceComet

My nearest neighbor is 3 miles away, my dogs are taught very young not to cross the property line even when chasing a bear off.
Most of the breeds I listed are either considered to be herding or guard dogs; WORKING dogs, NOT attack dogs.
They are suspicious and watchful of strangers and strange dogs but not aggressive unless attacked, and by attacked I mean a physical assault on them or me.
Their job is to tend my livestock and notify me if something or someone invades our space.
Only 5 incidents in over 22 years with these guys and girls or their progenitors; 3 of those incidents were bears they treed and the 2 others were mountain lions they treed.
Many people have come to the farm in that amount of time; adults, children, people with pets, and dogs visiting from the area around us.
NO DOG FIGHTS
NO DOG vs PEOPLE FIGHTS
A few dog versus bear fights that I break up with a 308 when necessary.
Like I said in my first post, the one you have to watch is Billy, he has the fastest, wettest, tongue in the west.
A dogs manners depends strictly on the human in charge of the dog and how well he trains them and what he expects of them.
BUT just like a human being, any two legged or four legged animal can be dangerous if abused or cornered.


86 posted on 08/24/2019 8:29:44 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

I’m glad to hear that you have an isolated location for your dogs. I hope it works out for you but those breeds have a higher than normal incident of aggressive behavior. I don’t buy the idea that bad dogs are the sole responsibility of bad owners. All dog people know that each breed has its own characteristics and personalities. Training can suppress or enhance those traits but can never completely eliminate them. Well-trained dogs have been known to go off-the-rails for no apparent reason.


87 posted on 08/25/2019 6:47:23 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Doctor Freeze

Serious question... if you encountered a pit bull and you did not have a weapon (gun, stick, golf club, etc.), what is the best way to incapacitate or kill the pit bull. Is it possible to grab its back legs and start pounding the dog into the pavement? Maybe apply a rear naked choke hold? Seriously, I have thought about this in case I ever had to deal with this. Thanks!
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Dear Sir: Please forgive my earlier inadequate response to your question. I knew that the following list existed; however, I could not find it at that time. Peruse at your leisure. Thank you.

http://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2019/09/how-to-stop-pit-bull-attack-questions.html


Safety Before Pit Bulldogs

Useful information, data, studies, and expert opinion about the dangers of pit bulls in communities and the value of BSL to keep communities safe.

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How to Stop a Pit Bull Attack - Questions, Advice, Experience
So many people worry about being attacked by a pit bull. The more we learn about how grave pit bull attacks are, the more helpless and unsure we feel. We know the power and unrelenting drive to attack and kill that are the hallmarks of pit bull attacks. The word “unstoppable” is used often to describe pit bulls. So, it is not surprising that many people have asked the questions: “How can I avoid a pit bull attack?” and “How can I stop an attacking pit bull?”

The mainstream media are quick to provide how to avoid a dog attack articles after a pit bull mauling. They often include pit bull friendly dog trainers, rescuers and pit bull advocates assure us that pit bulls aren’t more aggressive or dangerous than other kinds of dogs. The advice given, (stand like a tree; curl up like a rock; don’t pet a strange dog) is largely useless when faced with a potential pit bull attack, but it is safe, non-threatening advice to give.

The harder and more urgent question is “How can I stop a pit bull attack?” Media outlets don’t want to tackle this one. The answers are difficult because pit bulls are bred to be game. One dogfighter’s definition of gameness is “Kill, or die trying.” This means that answers to the question of how to stop a pit bull attack will necessarily be extreme. The first answer is, “most people can’t stop a pit bull attack.” And the rest of the answers involve violence, weapons and strategies to use lethal force.

To make matters worse, pit bull advocates condemn people for wanting to know how to protect themselves. A quick internet search show that all kinds of good and decent people only want to protect themselves are worried about avoiding pit bull attacks. This isn’t about a desire to kill anything, just a desire to not be a victim.

Below are some of the many advice on how to stop a pit bull attack that can be found. Inclusion in the list below is not an endorsement of any method. The list demonstrate that the concern people have about stopping pit bull attacks is widespread and common. After the list of advice articles is a very short list of stories about people who stopped an attacking pit bull.

Quora
How would you defend yourself against a pit bull?
https://bit.ly/2kMEjI2

The Stranger
How to Defeat a Pit Bull with Your Bare Hands
https://bit.ly/2lMZvOp

Animals 24-7
https://www.animals24-7.org/2019/02/24/15-real-life-tips-for-surviving-a-dog-attack/

Wired
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-to-survive-a-pit-bull-attack

Sports 24-7
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103726/Contents/How-would-you-defend-yourself-against-a-pitbull-attack-71128752/

Inside Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlcwxBPsCc

Let’s Run
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8018870

Secrets of Survival
https://www.secretsofsurvival.com/survival/dog_attack.html

Expert Security Tips
https://www.expertsecuritytips.com/how-to-defend-yourself-against-a-dog-attack/

Ammoland
https://bit.ly/2lPSCvK

Responsible Citizens for Public Safety
https://bit.ly/2miWzJJ

Exigent Circumstances
Combative Anatomy: How to fight a dog
https://bit.ly/2kNnJYL

Police Station: Crime Prevention & Personal Safety
https://bit.ly/2kMFR4R

Crime Safety Security
https://bit.ly/2kdbhkC

City Data
Whats a good weapon against vicious dogs besides firearms?
https://bit.ly/2kkPDev

Martial Arts
How to Defend Against Dog Attacks?
https://bit.ly/2kkPM1x

High Road Forums
Am I Justified in shooting an Attacking Pit Bull in my Back Yard?
https://bit.ly/2lUzL2w

Runner’s Blueprint
How to Prevent and Handle a Dog Attack While Running
https://bit.ly/2Yg7gy3

The Shorthorn
Protect yourself from dog-inflicted wounds
https://bit.ly/2mh9ufcml

Self Defense
How do you kill a dog in self defense with your bare hands?
https://bit.ly/2lMYQMV

People who defended themselves or others from a pit bull attack
Man uses martial arts chokehold on pit bull to save his dog
https://bit.ly/2kKz7V6

Boy stops pit bull attack with jujitsu choke hold
https://bit.ly/2klumkQ

Man choked to death his pet Staffordshire bull terrier of ten years when it attacked him for no apparent reason
https://bit.ly/2kAO1xr

MMA fighter chokes out pit bull with poodle in its jaws
https://bit.ly/2kB5EgA

Man strangles attacking pit bull in Conroe TX
https://bit.ly/2kB7Nc6

Man Saves Neighbor’s golden doodle by Strangling Pit Bull to Death
https://bit.ly/2kiuW2N

Used a Machete to defend against pit bull attack
https://cbsloc.al/2lOU81i

Field & Stream
I Shot a pit bull yesterday morning with my bow.
https://bit.ly/2mh9prU

Very long list of pit bulls that were stabbed to stop an attack
https://bit.ly/2maOmHh

Facebook page about pit bulls shot by police to save themselves or victims
https://bit.ly/2lWNLsH

Neighbor shot attacking pit bull
https://bit.ly/2lW9hO5

Aunt shoots, kills pit bull to stop attack on 9-year-old boy
https://bit.ly/2kkNMGo

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88 posted on 09/18/2019 1:19:25 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Pirate Ragnar

I just saw this post

Man is that ever true

Well done


89 posted on 05/13/2020 9:59:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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