SCIENCE AND THE STATE
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “As for Federal funding, you don’t know what that is or was historically.”
People talk. From what I have heard, funding for science exploded in the middle of the 20th century, mostly because of Russia. U.C. Berkeley states that most scientific research is funded by government grants from agencies such as the NSF and NIH, and from some non-profit foundations for things like Breast Cancer Research.
The following paper, written by and for evolutionary biologists, indicates funding for evolutionary biology comes from the NSF and NIH:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jeb.13497
Yale’s website for the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology states, “The National Science Foundation provides numerous opportunities for training and research for graduate students and undergraduates.”
During college my research was funded primarily by the DOE. I also know that SETI was/is federally funded, as is practically all space research projects.
Private companies tend to fund research that will help the bottom line of their companies, which would exclude almost all, if not all, evolution research.
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>>Kalamata: “It is too late. Evolutionism is the established religion of the United States, thanks to the ACLU, the thugs at the NCSE, and a few tyrannical judges who thought nothing of usurping the power of free expression from the states and the people.”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Naw, you call it “religion” because you disagree on religious grounds. Strictly defined & taught, science is the opposite of any religion.
I agree that science is the opposite of religion; and evolutionism is not science, but a faith-based religion. The only way a rational populace will accept it is by force — by the sword of the State.
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>>Kalamata: “If evolutionism was not the established religion of the United States, it could be challenged in the classroom by other theories. But evolutionism has become the modern-day Church of England, which caused the colonists to flee England and come to America.”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “There is no other scientific theory. By definition, Creationism and Intelligent Design are theology, not science.
Evolution is not a scientific theory, but a faith-based religion that has been established as the religion of the United States. The other two you mentioned are suppressed scientific theories that preceded evolutionism, but are finally making a comeback.
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>>Kalamata on criticizing evolution: “[Scientists will not question evolution] in the classroom, if they want to obtain tenure; and not in their research, if they want to get published.
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Sure they can, in classrooms on theology, philosophy, history of western civilization, etc.
You are being deceptive again, Alinsky Joe.
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>>Kalamata: “It is always good to know there are lawyers and judges available who can tell everyone what science is.”
>>Joe the Science Denier says, “Or, more precisely, what science is not.
You have to be pretty desperate to recruit a corrupt judge and an even more corrupt legal team to suppress the opposition. Science should be able to stand on its own without the threat of a Galilean type of Inquisition to those simply questioning it.
Mr. Kalamata
Kalamata:
">>Joe the Science Denier says..." Still Rules #5, #6 & #7, post #272.
Kalamata: "Private companies tend to fund research that will help the bottom line of their companies, which would exclude almost all, if not all, evolution research."
Bottom line: you don't know how much, if any, Origin of Life research there is, or how much of it is Federally funded.
You suspect it's a lot, I suspect it's not so much, and my reason is precisely that direct practical applications for Origin of Life research are... limited.
Kalamata: "I agree that science is the opposite of religion; and evolutionism is not science, but a faith-based religion.
The only way a rational populace will accept it is by force — by the sword of the State."
Rules #2 & #5.
Kalamata: "Evolution is not a scientific theory, but a faith-based religion that has been established as the religion of the United States.
The other two you mentioned are suppressed scientific theories that preceded evolutionism, but are finally making a comeback."
Rules #1, #2 & #9.
Kalamata: "You are being deceptive again, Alinsky Joe."
Rules #2, #5 & #7.
Kalamata: "You have to be pretty desperate to recruit a corrupt judge and an even more corrupt legal team to suppress the opposition.
Science should be able to stand on its own without the threat of a Galilean type of Inquisition to those simply questioning it."
Says our proponent of religious rule over science.
It's worth noting that the school board which had voted to accept the Creationist textbook was voted out of office. ![]()