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Musicologist Backs Up Copyright Infringement Claim Against Katy Perry...
Billboard ^ | 7/20/19 | Chris Eggertsen

Posted on 07/21/2019 4:17:27 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Expert witness Todd Decker alleges “five or six points of similarity" between Perry's 2013 hit [Dark Horse] and the 2008 Christian rap song "Joyful Noise."

Day two of the copyright infringement trial over Katy Perry’s 2013 single “Dark Horse” was characterized by more than one instance of live singing, but it wasn’t the pop star who was giving the performance.

Instead, Todd Decker -- a musicologist and professor who serves as the chair of music at Washington University in St. Louis -- belted out some tunes during his testimony on Friday (July 19). Serving as the plaintiffs' expert witness, Decker is just one cog in an effort to prove that Perry and her “Dark Horse” collaborators, including songwriter-producers Lukasz "Dr. Luke" Gottwald and Max Martin, copied the underlying beat from Marcus Gray’s 2008 Christian rap song “Joyful Noise” without the permission of he or his co-plaintiffs, Emanuel Lambert, aka Da Truth, and Chike Ojukwu. (The lawsuit was first filed in 2014.)

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Katy was a major player for Hitlery in 2016. Her song "Roar" was used in a major closing-days tv ad for the Pantsuit Queen.

Looks like the Democrats again cozy up to thieves, if this lawsuit's claims are accurate!

1 posted on 07/21/2019 4:17:27 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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If tbis guy’s an expert how is it he isnt sure if it is five or if it is six?


2 posted on 07/21/2019 4:20:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Katy started out a Christian singer and wound up a Spirit Cooking baby killer. Hope she loses this case.


3 posted on 07/21/2019 4:26:07 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: SoFloFreeper

Rats doin’ what rats do.


4 posted on 07/21/2019 4:27:03 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: TigerClaws

Exactly. She’s a raving moonbat leftard and a follower of the evil one...


5 posted on 07/21/2019 4:31:48 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtards from our company & did so happily at every election since 2008. I hope all libs die.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Katy Perry is liberal trash!


6 posted on 07/21/2019 4:33:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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NYU music professor and musicologist Lawrence Ferrara -- illustrating that two much-older songs, “Jolly Old St. Nicholas” and “Merrily We Roll Along,” feature nearly-identical instrumental sequences.

When I hear about one musician suing another for allegedly copying their music, I often wonder who the one suing copied from. As long as music's been around, I doubt there are very many totally unique and original sounds and rhythms produced by anyone. Everything is derivative to some extent.

There probably are some instances of blatant copying, but when I've listened to some of the music supposedly copied, there is often little obvious similarity between the two being compared.

7 posted on 07/21/2019 4:39:26 PM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: Fiddlstix

You are way too kind.


8 posted on 07/21/2019 4:45:18 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi
Yes. But,..I am trying to avoid being banned from FR
9 posted on 07/21/2019 4:57:56 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Will88

https://youtu.be/5pidokakU4I


10 posted on 07/21/2019 4:58:12 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: SoFloFreeper

Notwithstanding the politics of the performers, the two songs have similar beats, but they aren’t identical note progressions and not the same tones. Very close rhythms, but used to very different effect.

I’ve heard many parody songs use close analogs of the original and avoid copyright claims, but I don’t know where the legal lines are drawn for sampling.

I’d think the plaintiff’s claims rely heavily on showing opportunity to steal the beat and intent, not so much the coincidental note progressions and tempo, and the article made it sound like the defense was being pretty effective in poking holes in that this far.


11 posted on 07/21/2019 5:00:22 PM PDT by jz638
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is ridiculous. The plaintiffs are suing claiming that Perry and her collaborators have infringed an underlying beat from a 2008 Christian rap piece’s eight bars for her 2012 hit . . . You cannot copyright a beat. . . I don’t care that Perry is a moonbat. The lawsuit should be tossed or artists would be suing at the drop of a top hat.


12 posted on 07/21/2019 5:03:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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So many songs out there have similar sounds, chords, and music I am surprised there are not more copyright lawsuits.


13 posted on 07/21/2019 5:05:19 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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...copied the underlying beat...


BS. I suppose every drum machine that lays down a type of beat it copying someone’s beat.

This is stupid.


14 posted on 07/21/2019 5:05:45 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SoFloFreeper

I have a copyright on the word “the.”

Cha-ching!


15 posted on 07/21/2019 5:09:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All great causes begin as movements, become businesses and end up as rackets." --Eric Hoffer)
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You cannot copyright a beat. . . I don’t care that Perry is a moonbat. The lawsuit should be tossed or artists would be suing at the drop of a top hat.

I just copied your words. Sue me.


16 posted on 07/21/2019 5:10:19 PM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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To: HamiltonJay
Lol, that video is pretty relevant to this discussion, four chords used in a large number of pop songs. I read and listened to some of the evidence in the case where the Marvin Gaye heirs sued the writers of the song Blurred Lines, and that was about rhythm sequences and the rhythm instruments used. The songs actually sounded very different to me.

These law suits seem to be about some underlying rhythm in songs where the melodies, or tunes, sound very different.

17 posted on 07/21/2019 5:11:02 PM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If I copied a Lakota beat, could the drummer Sioux me?


18 posted on 07/21/2019 5:13:09 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Katy Perry: “I killed a nun”


19 posted on 07/21/2019 5:18:27 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Axis of Awesome - 4 Four Chord Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I


20 posted on 07/21/2019 5:21:09 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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