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China’s population numbers are almost certainly inflated to hide the harmful legacy of its family
South China Morning Post ^ | Published: 2:00pm, 20 Jul, 2019 | Yi Fuxian

Posted on 07/21/2019 3:52:40 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

China’s official demographic figures, including the now-cliched “country of 1.4 billion people”, seriously misrepresent the country’s real population landscape. The real size of China’s population could be 115 million fewer than the official number, putting China behind India in terms of population.

This massive error, equal to the combined populations of the United Kingdom and Spain, is a product of China’s rigged population statistics system, influenced by the vested interests of China’s family planning authority.

To start with, the raw data of China’s population figures were “adjusted”. China’s total fertility rate, or the number of kids per woman throughout her life, dropped below the watershed level of 2.1 in 1991, from which moment the population size of the next generation would be smaller than the current one, and the average total fertility rate was 1.36 in 1994-2018, according to data from census and surveys. However, the family planning authority in charge of the country’s population control refused to believe the numbers and “adjusted” the rate to 1.6-1.8 and, accordingly, the official population size.

For instance, the real total fertility rate in 2000 was 1.22, according to a census result, but the government revised it to 1.8. Accordingly, the country had 14.1 million new births in 2000, but the government revised the figure by 26 per cent to 17.7 million. A census, which is conducted every 10 years, should provide the truest picture of China’s demographic situation. But for the 2000 census, the government was unhappy about the original finding of 1.24 billion and revised it up to 1.27 billion.

One incentive to inflate population size is that China’s family planning authority needs to present a picture of a “rapidly growing population” to justify the country’s brutal family control policies and even the very existence of the birth control apparatus.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; maga; trump
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Lies, damned lies, statistics and Chinese statistics.
1 posted on 07/21/2019 3:52:40 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

Bet they wish they had half that number. Same with India.


2 posted on 07/21/2019 3:58:51 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t believe it. One child policy was always mostly a sham. I engaged in trade with some family-owned businesses in late 1990s and mentioned that big families at least in northern China were a norm. By big families I mean 3+ children. They usually had older male kid officially and the rest undocumented.


3 posted on 07/21/2019 3:59:09 AM PDT by NorseViking
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“Lies, damned lies, statistics and Chinese statistics.“
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Yeh, their biggest problem is their out of whack boy:girl birthdate ratio. It’s been about 100 boys : 80 girls for years. Consequently, young Chinese men are wife shop in neighboring countries. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in coming years....


4 posted on 07/21/2019 4:05:53 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: NorseViking
It is hard to know the truth about anything out of China.

Their data collection system is terribly corrupt.

When truth takes a backseat to political expeciency, how do you "know" anything?

5 posted on 07/21/2019 4:08:59 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: NorseViking

I believe Party members and government employees are restricted to 1, with loss of membership and/or job the penalty for transgressions. Note that the policy only came into place in the early 80’s. The principal barrier to having more children comes down to money. K-12 education is theoretically subsidized in China, but not free. Children beyond the first have to pay full freight, i.e. full tuition. I don’t know the numbers, but I’ve read that it’s not a small amount relative to typical Chinese salaries.


6 posted on 07/21/2019 4:09:56 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: snoringbear

{Consequently, young Chinese men are wife shop in neighboring countries. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in coming years....]


Future Chinese are gonna look somewhat different from the Chinese of today - a real mishmash, depending on where the brides come from. And Chinese food in China proper will look and taste different.


7 posted on 07/21/2019 4:12:53 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“justify”

Sorta like the US does with that second hand smoke BS.


8 posted on 07/21/2019 4:14:38 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Zhang Fei; marktwain

Not everybody is a party member to really care and the level of economic activity in China provides an average small business enough money for the owners to be counted as rich by American standards. They don’t care for the subsidized education, they would simply send their kids to Western colleges.
Even the average income in China is about $10k with blue collars making about as much in moderately developed industrial centers and much higher in the more developed South.
If you adjust $10k to their living expenses starting with groceries and consumer goods prices and ending with rent, utilities and health care it is a better deal than $70k in California.
The majority aren’t that poor to care about subsidies.


9 posted on 07/21/2019 4:24:01 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: fruser1

El Rushbo told of a WHO study of 2nd hand smoke in Europe back in the 80s. The study found that 2nd hand smoke is so diluted vs. 1st hand as to have NO effect at all. The WHO didn’t like that result, so they spiked the story, buried it, and continued the lies about the phony perils of 2nd hand smoke. Disband the UN and the WHO!


10 posted on 07/21/2019 5:02:24 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Zhang Fei

The article presumes the fallacy that the population number is known with the accuracy to juggle the numbers as is done by the author


11 posted on 07/21/2019 5:05:31 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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“By big families I mean 3+ children. They usually had older male kid officially and the rest undocumented.”

Yeah, but that wasn’t the norm.

Work groups most people were under literally charted each woman’s menstrual cycle.


12 posted on 07/21/2019 5:32:12 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Zhang Fei

A few hundred million here, a few hundred million there, pretty soon you’re talking big population.


13 posted on 07/21/2019 5:50:32 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Zhang Fei

1.4 billion or

1.28 billion

I dont think that this is a serious difference at those numbers.


14 posted on 07/21/2019 5:55:03 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Zhang Fei

I always thought Russian women and Chinese men would be a good mix. I do know one couple.

He just went back to the mainland China and she moved to Belarus.


15 posted on 07/21/2019 5:56:39 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Reno89519

“Bet they wish they had half that number. Same with India.”

They’re both busy colonizing us.


16 posted on 07/21/2019 6:20:05 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Tucker39

As I recall it that WHO study actually cited a “preventive effect” of second hand smoke on the lungs of children. That is it stimulated and strengthened the lungs.


17 posted on 07/21/2019 6:44:31 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
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To: marktwain
When truth takes a backseat to political expediency, how do you "know" anything?
Truth taking a backseat to political expediency is the definition of Political Correctness. It occurs when a political party is entitled, not only to their own opinions but to their own facts. You know, like Democrats (Bob Hope).

18 posted on 07/21/2019 7:40:17 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Zhang Fei
If that's true, it means that China's productivity and per capita income is much higher than currently stated.
19 posted on 07/21/2019 7:50:35 AM PDT by zeestephen
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What they have is a rapidly aging population and the biggest economic slowdown since 1992. Sadly they got old before they got rich. 😆
20 posted on 07/21/2019 7:51:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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