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Trump Dodged An Ambush By Avoiding War With Iran
Townhall.com ^ | June 24, 2019 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 06/23/2019 11:58:18 PM PDT by Kaslin

Assuming nothing happens between the time I write this and the time you read it, it appears that Donald Trump has refused to take the sucker’s bait and engage us in open war with Iran. And while I remain more hawkish than many of my fellow supporters of the Trump Revolt against the garbage liberal elite, it’s pretty clear that Trump was right. Some quality conservatives disagree with me in good faith, but whatever makes Fredocons like Bill Kristol upset is presumptively a good idea.

Let’s clarify some things. Iran is our enemy – the notion that we might wish to avoid being drawn into open conflict today does not mean these mullah bastards don’t deserve to be hanged from the very cranes they use to murder gays, women who refuse hijab oppression and people who like freedom. We have been at covert war with them for four decades, and they’ve murdered our people from Lebanon to Iraq and elsewhere. We are morally justified in wiping out Iran’s scummy leadership and using as much force as we choose to prevent their obtaining the bomb that Obama and his coterie of collaborators tried to hand it. Don’t confuse the fact that it is not to our advantage to openly attack Iran (or at least its rulers) right this minute with the mistaken idea that Iran is not our enemy. We have every moral right to inflict ruthless payback.

Let’s clarify another thing. Iran and our liberal elite both seemed eager for open war. Since when did either want what was best for Trump, which means what is best for America? Napoleon allegedly said, and I’m paraphrasing, “Don’t do what your enemy wants you to do.” Sun Tzu advised readers to irritate a temperamental enemy into mistakes. This is what they were doing. The Iranians hit those tankers, and their denials were baloney. The Iranians shot down our unmanned drone, and their claim it was in their territory was baloney too. Why would they do that? Drones and recon aircraft had flown that path for decades. Why now?

They wanted to be attacked.

There’s no other reasonable explanation. And these attacks were the perfect provocation because they were not that provocative. No Americans were killed, and we know the Iranians have no qualms about murdering Americans – they were responsible for hundreds of American deaths in Iraq. An attack may have cost them a couple radar sites and missile batteries, but so what? With the sanctions strangling their economy, and the Persian people restless from four decades chafing under these fanatics’ rule, this would be a great way to unify the country against an outside attacker and seize the moral high ground while splitting the US off from its allies and undercutting Trump’s rule.

And our elite also wanted Trump to attack. Why?

Some are legit patriots who recognize Iran is a threat and want it erased – with them, this is a reasonable disagreement on strategy and tactics. Save your criticisms of Mike Pompeo and John Bolton for someone else – I’m glad they’re in place even if I may not agree with their strategic assessment of this situation. They are doing what they think is good for America, and we can work with that.

But others are more cynical, and less patriotic. They recognize that another war – over a robot plane – would undercut Trump’s own legitimacy with his base, maybe fatally. Trump was hired in significant part because Normal Americans were sick and tired of having their kids sent off to fight wars that our garbage elite has no intention of winning – and we had no intention of winning one with Iran. That means invading and occupying – no dice. This would be more inconclusive Mideast skirmishing. The Democrats would have loudly and proudly opposed this new war and, if they had their way, it would have defined Trump’s presidency like Vietnam did LBJ’s, or Iraq did Bush 43’s.

“Hey, wait,” one might ask. “Weren’t we just talking about one airstrike and that’s it?” Well, the advocates in DC were, but Iran might have had other ideas. After all, the enemy gets a vote, and it could have voted to massacre Americans still in Iraq or elsewhere. Once you jump into war, you lose the ability to jump out when things get ugly.

Let’s talk conspiracy theories. Is it possible that the John Kerry/Ben Rhodes Iranophile faction, still stinging because Trump binned their disastrous Iran Deal and exercising their liberal free pass on the Logan Act, told the mullahs to provoke Trump with some non-fatal pokes in order to weaken him domestically and help restore the rule of people who always put American interests last?

That is, Democrats.

I don’t know, but can we really rule that out? We keep hearing from these people about how Trump is an existential threat to America, and if they really believe that, is it so nuts to think they might canoodle with Tehran to defeat him? If you had told me a few years ago the entire senior DoJ and FBI would conspire to pull off a soft coup to undo an election, I might have advised you to take a deep breath and chill. But then I watched it happen.

So, I don’t know if it this is what went down, but no one can say you’re insane for thinking it could. And that possibility had to enter into Trump’s calculations.

Couldn’t you just feel the disappointment out there in the garbage mainstream media when Trump saw the ambush and decided, at the last minute, not to walk into the kill zone? They spent all day nailing together their cross and he decided to skip the crucifixion.

And what if the Iranians were ready and waiting for us and shot down a bunch of our planes? Can you imagine the hit Trump would have taken? Even if no one tipped them off that we were coming – it’s horrible to even write that, but can we be absolutely confident no one might think the sacrifice worthwhile if it dealt a defeat to The Donald? – there is nothing publicly disclosed about the plan Trump scrubbed that could not be guessed by a half-way competent major.

But leaving aside the politics, which adults understand you cannot do, was this a bad purely strategic decision?

At the Army War College, before it disgraced itself by cowering before SJWs and when we weren’t reading Clausewitz, we learned about the elements of national power: DIME – diplomatic, information, military and economic. There are lots of tools in the toolbox. The Iranians publicly shot down a US drone, which was a military action but was arguably more of an information (i.e., propaganda) operation. Why do we have to reply in kind? No practical military option exists to defeat the mullahs, since we’re not marching into Tehran unless Max Boot and Bill Kristol start getting their phone calls returned by the White House again. So, an attack would have been a one-time punch to show our resolve with no lasting effect on their strategic capabilities. In other words, an information operation, and not much of one since no one actually thinks Trump won’t unleash hell if the baddies do something really bad.

If you want to hurt the mullahs – and I do – you use the tools that they can’t match even as you mercilessly disembowel them. Diplomatic: Let’s help the Iranian resistance, as opposed to the Obama policy of propping up the Imam-ocracy. Let’s make them chase their own tail trying to snuff out internal opposition so they can’t cause mischief around the region and the globe.

Economic: Impose more sanctions. If the choice is doing biz with the US or Iran, Iran loses every single time. And we should leverage this crisis to our own advantage to help America prosper. The Far East (China, Japan and South Korea) gets most of its oil from the Persian Gulf. Hey, didn’t Trump just make the US a net exporter of petroleum products by undoing the Obama oil exploration self-castration rules? Asia can buy from us instead, or they can go defend their own sea lanes. Choose.

Good choice. Welcome to Texas.

We win, Iran loses. We prosper, Iran sinks into economic chaos, and eventually its people get sick of misery and those murderous Khomeinist creeps swing.

War is what the mullahs wanted because they know they can’t lose strategically in a military context – only Trump can. But they can only lose strategically to our diplomatic and economic power – if we choose to ruthlessly employ it.

Oh, the military option is still there. And the patience to await the right time to use it instead of reacting precipitously is a combat multiplier. We need to set the timetable, not our opponents.

It’s clear that Iran and certain domestic political actors – the Democrats – share a common interest in seeing Trump defeated politically. Their interests were therefore aligned in favor of the strike Trump called off. Why again would we do what our opponents want?

The nice thing about Trump is that he has no intention of being played for a sap.

If Trump gets talked into yet another unnecessary war – the “unnecessary” qualifier is important because a justifiable war won’t hurt him – then it’s pretty clear he loses in 2020 and we would then start down the slope toward the nightmare I write about in my action-packed yet super-snarky novels about the United States’ split into red and blue countries, People's Republic, Indian Country and Wildfire. Not surprisingly, liberals and the sad Loser Boat crew from the failed Weekly Standard hailed my novels as “Appalling.” So, declare war on those goofs and check out my books.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: flexibility; iran; irandeal; iraniannukes; newstartnukedeal; obamahillary; presidenttrump; russia; schlichter; trump; trumpiran; trumpmiddleeast; uranium1deal; uraniumone
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1 posted on 06/23/2019 11:58:18 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It is time for all to understand that wars weaken us and should not be engaged in lightly.


2 posted on 06/24/2019 12:10:12 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Kaslin

This column was weak. Really weak. Praying Mantis settled the Iranians for years. The Iran military is relatively weaker today than it was in the 80’s, when it had a huge inventory of the latest American hardware, thanks to the Shah’s massive arms buildup before Jimmy “Killer Rabbit” Carter convinced him to step down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

The President will do what he wants. I hope he does prevent the Iranians from deploying nuke-tipped ballistic missiles.


3 posted on 06/24/2019 12:38:30 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: All; Kaslin

Iran is one of Russia’s central pawns. There is no way they would have done such a thing without Russia’s prior knowledge and approval. In fact, it may have actually been of their doing, via their agents within Iran, in an attempt to get us involved in a long costly distracting war while they march along in their expansionist mission to bring back their lost empire.

Have no doubt about it, the Russians are NOT happy that Hillary lost the 2016 election. They, working with the Dems via that elaborate “TRUMP-Russia collusion” hoax, tried very hard to defeat the president.

The Obama-Biden-Hillary admin bent over backward to appease the Russians in such critically important areas as missile defense, the New Start nuke treaty, the Putin-loving Iran nuke and huge cash deal, the Obama-Hillary Uranium-One deal, etc. This, as they practically dismantled OUR defenses. Pres Trump has just about reversed ALL of these things over course of his time in office. The Russians are (obviously) fuming over all of this.


4 posted on 06/24/2019 12:45:52 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: Kaslin

Here we go again. Same old stuff again. The bully nations of the international schoolyard, unopposed, are building up and getting more cohesive with each other for another world war, this time with nukes, plagues and whatever. And a few morons with inadequate educations in history or more selfish motives are pushing for that process to be repeated.


5 posted on 06/24/2019 12:46:45 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Zhang Fei

If it were just Iran....unfortunately they are closely allied with the Russians

You want nuclear war?. It won’t be boots on ground


6 posted on 06/24/2019 12:48:59 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: thoughtomator


It is time for all to understand that wars weaken us and should not be engaged in lightly.

President Trump clearly knows this.

his head-fake iran attack was clearly an exercise for his own edification/iran's contemplation. He's playing way above our pay grade, and we can only guess what he's up to.


7 posted on 06/24/2019 12:58:44 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Nifster

[If it were just Iran....unfortunately they are closely allied with the Russians

You want nuclear war?. It won’t be boots on ground]


The Russians won’t initiate a nuclear attack against a country with significant second strike capability. Any war fought with a peer nuclear power with the ability to wreak large-scale nuclear retaliation will be fought on a conventional level. Because no leader wants (1) his family and everyone he knows wiped out and (2) his record in the history books to involve the destruction of tens of millions of his own countrymen. National leaders assume their posts for all kinds of reasons. But the one minimum objective they definitely try to fulfill is not be recorded in the history books as the worst leader every for their particular realm. And the nuclear slaughter of half of Russia’s population, after he initiated a nuclear strike against the US, would mark Putin down as the worst Russian leader ever, by orders of magnitude. That’s not even counting the more personal loss of all his kin and friends.


8 posted on 06/24/2019 1:07:32 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: ETL

Well said.


9 posted on 06/24/2019 1:12:34 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: 867V309

I think what we saw go down here is the Deep State attempted to railroad Trump into starting a war, and Trump railroading them right out of it.

The primary conflict is between our elected government and a permanent bureaucracy both domestic and transnational, with the whole world seemingly the battleground.


10 posted on 06/24/2019 1:17:25 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Zhang Fei

The race is on for hypersonic missile development in the U.S.A., Russia and China—one of several trends that might introduce surprises. Communist leaders do focus on shelter and security for the upper echelons of their party faithful but care less about their general populations (see human waves, malnutrition and stress fractures in women, and all).


11 posted on 06/24/2019 1:30:23 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: thoughtomator


I think what we saw go down here is the Deep State attempted to railroad Trump into starting a war, and Trump railroading them right out of it.

there is NO WAY president Trump would be "railroad" into something so dramatic. this was a head fake to sort out his friends.


12 posted on 06/24/2019 1:47:20 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Zhang Fei

I know that you have just conveyed the view of DC elites on war and it is awfully alarming.
Just remember how and why WWI started and ended. I believe everyone involved expected it would be a little bit more ‘conventional’.


13 posted on 06/24/2019 1:54:14 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Kaslin
Think about "They wanted to be attacked" and "No practical military option exists to defeat the mullahs." Both these statements are to be true.

Yes, we could bloody Iran really well, except we have no strategy to capitalize on it and it never a good idea to attack when a enemy wants it. Other than getting some revenge, a single massive air strike would accomplish little in the long run or backfire on us and our allies.

If or when it comes to attacking Iran, there needs to be a long term strategy, and any campaign needs to really hurt the regime, not just the Iranian military.

14 posted on 06/24/2019 1:59:39 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Kaslin

Iran Threatens To Shoot Down More American Drones
https://www.forces.net/news/iran-threatens-shoot-down-more-american-drones


15 posted on 06/24/2019 2:02:31 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Widget Jr

The military option on Iran has two consequences.
It would empower the Iranian regime and there would be different POTUS after the elections.


16 posted on 06/24/2019 2:06:46 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Kaslin; dp0622
Our President is smart. He didn't fall for the "let's send American boys to die for Saudia against Iran"

President Trump to be re-elected!!!

17 posted on 06/24/2019 2:10:54 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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To: Widget Jr

Correct. The USAF could win over in a few hours or days. But then what?


18 posted on 06/24/2019 2:13:57 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Kaslin

The neocon never trumpers are just as dirty as the radical rats, this was a piss poor setup to get trump to bite at the hook, once they set the hook he would be finished for 2020. The war mongers would get what they wanted and so would the rats for 2020


19 posted on 06/24/2019 2:40:22 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: NorseViking

[I know that you have just conveyed the view of DC elites on war and it is awfully alarming.
Just remember how and why WWI started and ended. I believe everyone involved expected it would be a little bit more ‘conventional’.]


It was fought for control of Europe, the crown jewels. And it ended well short of the annihilation of even 10% of any major participant’s population. And in no instance were the families or friends of the major decision makers in any danger of being exterminated in their entirety. There was also the prospect of material and territorial gain to offset the manpower and infrastructure losses. What gains would offset the flattening of all of Russia’s major cities and the deaths of 70m Russians resulting from the American response to a Russian nuclear first strike? Putin’s not an Iranian mullah who thinks launching nukes at DC might cause the Twelfth Imam to reveal himself and initiate the end times predicted in the Koran. He’s basically an atheist who is guided by cost benefit calculations like other non-Muslim cleric decision makers. Launching a nuclear strike at the US for *any* reason other than in retaliation for an American nuclear attack on Russia falls on the wrong side of the cost-benefit register.


20 posted on 06/24/2019 2:44:04 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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