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California: America's First Third World State
National Review ^ | 06/18/2019 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 06/18/2019 10:22:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 06/19/2019 9:19:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 06/18/2019 10:22:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Headline is way over the top, but he makes very pertinent points.


2 posted on 06/18/2019 10:29:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

GENIUS.


3 posted on 06/18/2019 10:38:56 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: BenLurkin

Actually the headline is not “Over The Top”

Just go to Google Maps Street view and “Drive” around Los Angeles

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0441828,-118.2438884,3a,36.2y,240.03h,82.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTVQSnqmizeR4IdOBQsEYUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

You will cry that such places like this are in the United States.


4 posted on 06/18/2019 10:43:33 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: BenLurkin

Things are very good for the wealthy in 3rd world countries.


5 posted on 06/18/2019 10:44:36 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks ridiculous.)
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To: SeekAndFind

VDH in better days, with his daughter Susannah above Pepperdine University, in Malibu. Sadly, she passed away from Leukemia.

6 posted on 06/18/2019 10:44:54 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind

“What caused this lunacy?”

Weak GOP politicians who didn’t fight to turn back the tide.

The elimination of the two party system, particularly the law making the general election between the top two vote getters in the primaries. Many key general election races, including the US Senate race in 2018 (Di Fi won) are now between two Democrats.


7 posted on 06/18/2019 10:46:06 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: qam1

In places, Portland has that charm also.


8 posted on 06/18/2019 10:46:28 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: gaijin

RE: Sadly, she passed away from Leukemia.

What a tragedy. She was a very beautiful girl.


9 posted on 06/18/2019 10:48:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
Despite the highest gas taxes in the nation, none of its major trans-state freeways — not the 99, not I-5, not the 101 — after 70 years of use, are yet completed with six lanes, resulting in dangerous bottlenecks and wrecks.

To this list can be added Rte. 395, which runs from Cajon Pass to the Nevada line below Carson City and on to Canada. Despite being a major north-south artery, Rte. 395 consists of only two lanes through much of its course. Many areas, including the notorious 40-mile from Cajon Pass through Adelanto to Kramer's Corners feature stop lights and traffic jams. Rte. 395 should have been made a freeway decades ago.

10 posted on 06/18/2019 10:49:32 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: SeekAndFind

the tax payers of america always have the bill..stupid


11 posted on 06/18/2019 10:49:35 AM PDT by aces (and)
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To: BenLurkin

Over the top???? Heck no, nails it square on. Anyone who lives in Kalifornia deals with this on a daily basis.


12 posted on 06/18/2019 10:49:41 AM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the citizenship goes through on the census - and it will - and California loses billions in federal funding as a result,

and when - not if - a significant chunk of the cash cows in California see how much more they’re paying now that SALT deduction LSU have been limited and leave the state as a result, it will be interesting to see what the Lefties do then. The money is going to run out.


13 posted on 06/18/2019 10:49:51 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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ordinary people here do not live in shanties and drink water out of tire ruts.


14 posted on 06/18/2019 10:54:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of Victor Davis Hanson’s best articles and totally on target.

Our highways, bridges and infrastructure has been devastated like we did to Germany and Viet Nam in our wars.

Except the only war has been on the middle class voters and tax payers.

A hidden war for over decades has been destroying and liberalizing the once excellent state colleges and universities. They have abandoned excellent education to become SJW grooming centers, which destroy any science and math that has survived some how.

The hidden aim of this terrible action was to destroy the middle class children and making them unproductive SJW’s with staggering student loan debt for worthless degrees.

Now that debt is crushing a high % of the parents when they should be saving as much as possible for their upcoming retirement.


15 posted on 06/18/2019 10:54:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Gutless, Stupid, GOPe never confronts the compulsive lying Anti America Rats! Trump does it, 24/7!)
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Crime the last three years has increased. It is epidemic in local jails.

San Francisco has the highest property-crime rate per capita of any major city. The California prison system is a mess, and sanctuary cities ensure that illegal aliens charged with crimes will not be deported.

Pick up a McClatchy paper and you’ll see that the day’s fare of Central Valley criminality, even after sanitization and editorialization, is mind-boggling.

This IS the future if democrats take over... we'll all be California, Detroit, Chicago or any of many other 'progressive' hellholes emerriging in the United States..

16 posted on 06/18/2019 10:56:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Send Congo (Ebola) illegals to Martha's Vineyard - let them kill liberals "elites" first...)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Although the misguided socialist tyrants running California and other states are a major headache, the real problem with such states is the following imo.

We’re still stuck with a corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress that is not only stubbornly refusing to enforce the constitutionally enumerated guarantee of a republican form of government for each state, but is also not doing its duty to make punitive laws to discourage state actors from abridging constitutionally enumerated protections, especially freedom of religious expression and free speech.

From the 14th Amendment:

All patriots in the nation need to come to the rescue of state-oppressed patriots by electing a new patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only promise to support PDJT’s vision for MAGA, but will also promise to support PDJT in cleaning up renegade state governments.

And to make the cleanup permanent, patriots also need to support PDJT in leading the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA!

17 posted on 06/18/2019 10:57:26 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t think the title was wrong. I left that state back in 1999 due the very things stated in the post. Its far worse now and I am now getting my folks out of there. It once was a beautiful place but now I am not sure if it can be returned to what it once was.


18 posted on 06/18/2019 10:58:53 AM PDT by Nuke From Orbit
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To: gaijin
Genius? LOL

Poor VDH - I'm guessing he knows the real truth, but is constrained by his contractual writing agreements in order to appeal to a broader, more "reasonable" audience. He's also significantly hampered by the burden of being from the central valley; that is, he's blinded from some of the core drivers. For example, I would guess my net worth is significantly higher, simply from being in the middle of thunder dome.

Anyway, let's dispense with the small talk and cut to the chase. Like VDH, I'm a born & bred native ie I've seen it all. Here's the bottom line: when you combine the natural, corrosive elements of government which lead to corruption with insatiable market demand, the current day California was just waiting to be created. That is, it couldn't have turned out any other way.

The reason I say this is because one of the fundamental core drivers behind human motivation is the desire to "get rich". There are a bunch of different ways to achieve this goal. Conservatives naturally gravitate towards the private marketplace, but for savvy proglibs, government is a sure fire way to build up a significant net worth. But, if it's overly egregious and others aren't making similar bank, this can result in backlash.

So, ask yourself this question: with all the bad publicity about CA, with all the stories of government graft and corruption, how come no one is really leaving? Please don't quote me statistics - I live/drive here every day. By any metric, traffic volume + housing demand is off the charts. It seems to be growing exponentially. Ok, back to my question: how come with all the complaining, no one is voting with their wallet?

And this, my FRiends is the answer to a question no one seems to be asking: everyone - that is, anyone who owns real estate in the prime parts of the Bar area, SoCal (LA/OC) or SD is getting rich. And by rich, I mean levels of net worth far surpassing any previous generation of middle class natives. Take me for example - I grew up in a upper middle class neighborhood of what is now called the Silicon valley. Yet, yet this neighborhood of doctors, engineers and other professionals was only simply post-war moderately comfortable. 40 years later, the homes in my childhood neighborhood represent some of the most expensive real estate anywhere. And what of all the comfortable retirees who are now worth $2.5-5.0m simply due to household equity values?

Get the picture? It's why natives in London, Paris, NYC, you name any major city experiencing rapid immigration growth don't rebel and change government. Everyone is getting rich. And that's the payoff, one that VDH either doesn't realize because he doesn't experience it himself, or for some odd reason chooses to ignore. Because, it doesn't fit the narrative of his broader audience, which is CA sucks and everyone still living here is "stuck". LOL

19 posted on 06/18/2019 11:05:13 AM PDT by semantic
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Not far from it - you should see the pelosivilles. They most certainly do live in shanties - see them all over the sacramento area.


20 posted on 06/18/2019 11:16:40 AM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . . .)
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