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Bowing to pressure, Hong Kong leader suspends extradition bill
Reuters ^ | June 15, 2019

Posted on 06/15/2019 10:52:17 AM PDT by cba123

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To: sun7

I live in Hong Kong


21 posted on 06/15/2019 11:58:15 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Fai Mao

The protests are not misguided, as you suggest. Joseph Lau was convicted in absentia in Macao while he was in Hong Kong. There is no functional distinction between requesting rendition of a suspect versus a convict. Communist China wants to be able to extradict anyone charged with a crime that is punishable with a sentence of seven years or more, which is a list of offenses that include political crimes. The communists want to be able to grab people under colour of law, since they they do not wish to kill their golden goose: the Hong Kong money maker.


22 posted on 06/16/2019 1:45:31 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: cba123; All
"Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam on Saturday indefinitely delayed a proposed law that would have allowed extraditions to mainland China, in a dramatic retreat"

Obama: "We Welcome China's Rise"

CBS News ^ | January 19, 2011 | Stephanie Condon
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance
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Russia and China’s Growing Military Interaction; Surprised?

Why does Russia place such emphasis and media attention on incredibly large military exercises with China?

by Peter Zwack
September 9, 2018

The drums are already rolling for the upcoming Russian “Vostok” (east) wargames commencing on September 11.

With its focal point in the Trans-Baikal region of eastern Siberia adjoining Chinese Manchuria and Mongolia, this is a nationwide Russian military and societal event.

Touted by Russian minister of defense Sergei Shoigu as “unprecedented in scale, both in terms of area of operations and numbers of military command structure, troops, and forces involved,” Russian state press is declaring that up to three hundred thousand troops and one thousand aircraft will be involved, with the majority from the Eastern and Central Military Districts.

This would be even larger than the near-legendary Zapad-81 maneuvers held in the western USSR during the depths of the Cold War. ...”

One important wrinkle this year is that reportedly up to 3,200 Chinese personal with ninety vehicles, including tanks and thirty fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, will participate.

Most are coming from China’s Northern Command.

This will be the first time the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) will take part in this formerly purely Russian quadrennial Asia-oriented exercise.

The bulk of participating Chinese personal have already transited from Manchuria into Russia, escorted by Russian military police to the Tsugol training range near Chita. The Mongolians have also sent a small contingent. ...”

Same 2018 article...

“The Russia-China military relationship continues to evolve and is a logical progression following deepening political and economic ties.

Pragmaticallym the Amur-Ussuri territorial disputes were diplomatically resolved in 2004–5, enabling enhanced military cooperation though long-term generational issues remain.

While Chinese-Russian military activities have in the past been mostly symbolic and representational, they appear increasingly interactive.

The PLA, not blooded since its brusque 1979 defeat by Vietnam, likely hopes to learn from Russia’s newly gained fighting expertise derived since 2014 in eastern Ukraine and Syria.

What is key to determine is if their interaction evolves more ominously into interoperability exercises where substantial and varied forces can operate in tandem and jointly in coordinated operations.

Dating back to 2005, Russia and China have exercised modest forces together in a mostly “counterterrorist” role in Central Asia and in Russia as part of the Chinese-driven Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

Notably, SCO Exercise Peace Mission 2018, involving China, Russia and six other nations, including newly added India and Pakistan, is currently underway in Chelyabinsk (just east of the Ural Mountains).

Bilaterally, they have participated in several small scale naval exercises in the Baltics (2017), South China Sea (2016) and eastern Mediterranean (2015), where they have been mostly “show the flag” operations designed more to convey sharp signals abroad and show partner support. ...”

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/russia-and-china%E2%80%99s-growing-military-interaction-surprised-30822

23 posted on 06/16/2019 1:53:21 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: cba123

Another anti extradition/communist protests today. Here’s a 3-in-1 livestream coverage:

https://ncehk2019.github.io/nce-live/


24 posted on 06/16/2019 2:32:03 AM PDT by HK_Kai_Chung
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To: cba123

Victory?? Come on! The Chicoms will continue with their Chicom ways. With face recognition, and every other tool they can muster, they will slowly but surely arrest any and all they want to arrest, have show trials and perhaps even live executions in Tiananmen Square. They will also use the tried and true commie method of arresting hundreds in the dead of night, never to be heard of again. The Chicoms are not the weak Soviet Union. They will hold onto and expand their power.


25 posted on 06/16/2019 3:49:31 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try.)
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To: cba123

I’d say that is definitely safer to march in Hong Kong than in Beijing.


26 posted on 06/16/2019 4:45:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fai Mao
I live in Hong Kong
 
Oh?
 

https://www.freerepublic.com/~faimao/
 
I live on the island of Guam

27 posted on 06/16/2019 4:48:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III
With face recognition, and every other tool they can muster, they will slowly but surely arrest any and all they want to arrest, …

 
 

Like THIS one?
 
 
 
 
Or maybe THIS one?

28 posted on 06/16/2019 5:05:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

It is Sunday (HK time) and there is another BIG protest going on. It’s supposed to be larger than the previous Sunday’s march; just have to wait for the numbers to come out.

Hard to say what Carrie Lam will do. If she can calm things way down she may stay on. If she can’t then I think she will be out of a job. Have to wait for Monday and the rest of the week for things to happen.


29 posted on 06/16/2019 5:26:41 AM PDT by teacherwoes (Indoctrination is often done under the shadow of a ballot)
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Yeah I don't see anyone eating a paid-for lunch...


30 posted on 06/16/2019 7:07:41 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: cba123

Hong Kong is doomed. The sun has set on the British Empire. Last independent country for Han people is now Taiwan.


31 posted on 06/16/2019 8:50:52 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Fai Mao

> “I live in Hong Kong”

So what? Many leftists and CCP sympathizers live in the US too.


32 posted on 06/16/2019 11:12:59 AM PDT by sun7
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To: unixfox
But if they had guns...
My Stepdaughter, born in China, is now a US citizen and lived here in the US for over 15 years. Now, having graduated from college she went back to China to do business there. She conveyed real fear when President Xie became "president for life". She told me how China is really cracking down on any and all dissent. Everything is watched. One day she told me, "Now I know why guns are so important to Americans. "
33 posted on 06/16/2019 12:32:44 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (After Trump-then what?)
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