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Justice Dept. Keeps Wiretaps Secret in Flynn Case, Rejecting Judge’s Order
The New York Times ^ | 31 May 2019 | Adam Goldman

Posted on 05/31/2019 11:06:55 PM PDT by Theoria

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To: qaz123
Re: I thought Wray was all about transparency

William Barr is Wray’s boss, and Trump is Barr's boss.

There are at least 25 Freedom of Information Act requests pending for DOJ and FBI documents.

Probably every one of those documents would help Trump, but Trump has never lifted a finger to release, or speed up the release, of any of them.

Incomprehensible.

21 posted on 06/01/2019 2:01:46 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: atc23
what if "the tapes will provide evidence that the Flynn case was an Obama screw job from the get go and this thing immediately goes straight to the WH"

Fixed it. Judge Sullivan has brass ones!

22 posted on 06/01/2019 2:02:28 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: outofsalt

There’s nothing illegal about misleading Pence.


23 posted on 06/01/2019 2:12:02 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: Lisbon1940

The reporting I’ve read says the transcript was selectively edited to implicate Flynn and Pence and does not reflect the true nature of the conversation, which would have exculpated Flynn.


24 posted on 06/01/2019 2:20:02 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Theoria

WTF? The sentencing phase for Flynn has gone on longer than Gone With The Wind. Who are these a$$hole lawyers defying the judge’s order?

There are WAY too much secrecy in this fake government. There is also WAY too much spying on us. It has to stop. We are not slaves.


25 posted on 06/01/2019 2:52:40 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: All
Keep in mind, Flynn was on tap to replace Obama worshipper....Susan Rice.

Flynn would have been privy to all the Obama dirt now emerging.... the eternal unmaskings, their obsession with
spying, the FISA lies, the dossier's falsity, etc etc etc......

With US intel under his control, Obama had it all fixed. Hillary would sweep the dirt under the Oval Office rug.

Too frickin' bad....Obama was thwarted.

His quest for a permanent Democratic majority gone with the wind (smirk).

26 posted on 06/01/2019 3:35:25 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: zeestephen

One of the problems here is that Flynn and/or his legal team have done almost nothing to defend him. I’m not a lawyer, but it seems highly irregular for a judge to seek exculpatory information about a defendant that the defense counsel hasn’t even demanded on his behalf.


27 posted on 06/01/2019 3:37:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: combat_boots

“...wholly inadequate fixed fortifications”.

LOL, that’s a fact.


28 posted on 06/01/2019 3:39:37 AM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: qaz123

How is this even possible? I thought Wray was all about transparency and making sure things were on the up and up.

And I thought the Justice Department was under the purview of the President and that he’d ordered them to stop stonewalling.


29 posted on 06/01/2019 3:50:00 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Alberta's Child
..it seems highly irregular for a judge to seek exculpatory information about a defendant that the defense counsel hasn’t even demanded on his behalf.

I'm not so sure that Flynn's defense team was negligent here. It is customary, early in the trial phases, for the Defense to request such exculpatory evidence held by the Prosecution; however, in a case such as this, the DOJ prosecution would block such a request under the pretense of "National Security."

In this case before the bar, it appears to me that the Flynn defense team persisted in their requests and finally convinced the judge that the DOJ rationale was inadequate. In the end, the judge has to overrule the Prosecution and order the information release - which appears to have happened in this matter.

30 posted on 06/01/2019 4:32:11 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: qaz123

Damn, dude. Ease up on the Southerner hate.

SEC? Why single out this conference? How about Big 10, Pac 10, AAC, ACC, Big 12, etc.?

Wray was born and grew up in New York City and went to Yale.

NOT an SEC frat boy.


31 posted on 06/01/2019 4:41:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Theoria

Meanwhile, today, there is news of Obama administration in current talks with Iran

Find them. Arrest them. Shoot them......... now

No kumbaya, no lawerly moddly coddling.

There must be compasion for Americans but not for traitors


32 posted on 06/01/2019 4:46:10 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: qaz123

Sounds like a plan, qaz123.


33 posted on 06/01/2019 4:47:28 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: Theoria

Yep, Barr is just really kicking a@@ over there at the DOJ. Dismantling the Deep State as I eat my breakfast. /sarcasm.off


34 posted on 06/01/2019 4:59:02 AM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc (The future is best decided by ballots, not bullets. Ronald Reagan 1984)
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To: Theoria
So what if he discussed sanctions. President Trump had already been elected. Feeling out nations is part of the job of a President elect.

No different than Obama's...."I'll have more leverage after the election".

35 posted on 06/01/2019 5:02:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: House Atreides

I think they may be protecting the ways and means of gathering this paricular information and don’t want to lose it in the future.


36 posted on 06/01/2019 5:08:46 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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That can’t be the reason to hide the information. The evidence was obtained by intercepting calls to and from the Russian guy’s phone. That’s been publicly known for more than two years, so it sure isn’t a secret.

More likely, the DOJ doesn’t want to have this remarkable precedent established where evidence obtained through covert surveillance of a foreign diplomat is formally recognized in a public U.S. court proceeding.

37 posted on 06/01/2019 5:37:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I spent many a night in Atlanta, watching frat boys with the same exact haircut as Wray, talking all sorts of sh*t right before they were loaded into the back of the paddywagon and then see them in court the next week with their heads down. Probably was a bit of a culture shock for most of them, when they were sitting in ACDC next to some guy that just robbed someone, to his left, and some homeless guy that shit his pants a few hours ago, to his right.

While wearing his standard uniform of khaki shorts, some type of bright colored polo shirt, flip flops/brown leather loafers. They used to have a store in Atlanta to get all that, not sure if it’s still open. But they do have this...

https://www.countryclubprep.com/

But I will proudly stand corrected ....

ACC - Tech, Clemson, FSU

Big 12 - Penn St and Ohio State

I have a bit of a special loathing for OSU and Clemson ‘FANS’. I’m a huge fan of Swiney and the program he built. Meyer can suck a d*ck. Bit bi-polar, but, ‘Merica!!!

So, I will modify my statement to say....reminds of some fratboy from the SEC or ACC or Big 12.

Don’t have any experience with the Pac10, but I’m sure they’re just as bad.


38 posted on 06/01/2019 5:39:15 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Theoria

Seems to me that Obama’s farcical “Office of the President-elect’ would stand up to the same level of skepticism. I bet if you investigated Obama’s transition team even slightly you’d find egregious examples of undercutting existing US policies.

Flynn would have been well within his rights to signal that President Trump would be reviewing Obama’s sanctions against Russia. As long as no concrete deals were struck.


39 posted on 06/01/2019 5:50:26 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d*mned! The narrative of the day must be preserved!)
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To: wardaddy

It’s more fun to read the comments.


40 posted on 06/01/2019 5:58:19 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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