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Donald Trump wants investigation into Australia's role in 'Russian hoax'
Guardian ^

Posted on 05/24/2019 5:03:04 PM PDT by ameribbean expat

It is a potentially explosive development for the historically solid US-Australian alliance and the first time Trump has publicly named Australia while discussing what he calls the “Russia hoax” and “witch hunt”.

Trump said on Friday he had declassified “potentially millions of pages” of intelligence documents related to surveillance activities on his campaign and Barr would be in charge of analysing it.

“So what I’ve done is I’ve declassified everything,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Friday before leaving on a trip to Japan.

“He can look and I hope he looks at the UK and I hope he looks at Australia and I hope he looks at Ukraine.

“I hope he looks at everything, because there was a hoax that was perpetrated on our country.”

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: australia; deepstate; fiveeyes; spygate; uk; ukraine
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To: Long Jon No Silver

That’s pretty stupid. Just because these are historic allies doesn’t mean we share the same national interests. The Brits and Aussies and Ukrainians were all colluding with Obama for their own national interests. They all had their reasons for contributing to the witch hunt and Russia hoax. They never thought it would ever be revealed.

It’s going to be revealed. These people are not our friends. In international relations you don’t have Friends. You have people with mutual interests and enemies.


81 posted on 05/24/2019 8:33:52 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

If I were a true blithering idiot, I would be unable to perceive or understand hyperbole.


82 posted on 05/24/2019 8:36:16 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: naturalman1975
The meeting was arranged by Thompson after Papadopoulous asked her to see if she could get him an appointment with Downer.

I believe you are wrong. Do you have a source? Papadopolis has said publicly, and in his book, that he did not request the meeting. I strongly suspect he said this under oath as well. Maybe Downer legitimately thought he was on an honest and righteous mission, but if so, got played.

His Excellency the Honourable Alexander Downer, Companion of the Order of Australia, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary, High Commmisioner of the Commonwealth of Australia to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

His Excellency? Seriously? You're really gonna post that? You know that "Excellency" carries less than zero credibility here, right?

83 posted on 05/24/2019 9:12:17 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: ETCM
I'm fairly sure what I am saying is accurate. I don't regard Papadopoulous or his book as a reliable source. In my view, he screwed up badly in saying something he shouldn't have said and he's done everything he can to try and claim he's the victim of a conspiracy rather than his own mistakes. Using Downer's full title was intended to just show how senior Alexander Downer is - the American media seems to want to present him as just some Australian diplomat - he's not. He was Australia's longest serving Foreign Minister ever - eleven years between 1996 and 2007 as one of Prime Minister's John Howard's right hand man. He was at one point back in the 1990s, Australia's Leader of the Opposition as leader of the conservative Liberal Party - the alternative Prime Minister of Australia. His position as High Commissioner was that of an Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary.

The idea that he was going around seeking meeting with 30 year old nobody lawyers is honesty pretty absurd. He agreed to meet Papadopoulous because Papadopoulous said he worked for Trump and asked for a meeting and used a social connection to ask for a meeting. He had no reason to expect Papadopoulous would say anything particularly interesting and certainly not that he'd say anything important - but it was just possible the man might be a useful connection given that he did work for Donald Trump.

The American media seems to be constantly downplaying who Downer is, because I think they know their conspiracy scenario becomes quite absurd when it's understood who and what he is and his history.

A rockhard conservative politician who has been a friend to the United States for decades. A man who describes Barack Obama as a disappointing US President while praising Donald Trump's foreign relations skills.

84 posted on 05/24/2019 9:44:02 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Australia has never denied being part of the Russia hoax story - let the whole truth come out.


85 posted on 05/24/2019 10:42:03 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: thoughtomator

Hyperbole my ass


86 posted on 05/24/2019 10:42:51 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Your opinion is immaterial. If we determine that an enemy of ours is on your soil, you will give him up or we will come get him.


87 posted on 05/24/2019 10:44:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: MAGAthon

Alexander Downer has denied it in interviews.

The Australian government in general is treating the allegation as the ridiculous joke it is.


88 posted on 05/24/2019 10:57:43 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: thoughtomator
Bloody ridiculous. No Australian government would pack a former foreign minister off to the U.S to be interrogated. And you won't be sending a ‘team’. The U.S will not jeopardize a long standing relationship over Downer. It's that simple.
89 posted on 05/24/2019 11:19:07 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: naturalman1975

It wasn’t the whole of Australia or even the entire government. It was a few bad apples just like in the US.

It’s not Australia that’s bad but it absolutely is a few Australian diplomats, politicians, and IC members that _will_ be held to account.

Overthrowing a government is no small, innocent thing. Conspiring to do so is going to leave a mark. Best would be to excise the cancerous ones publicly and viciously. This cannot ever happen again.


90 posted on 05/25/2019 3:28:27 AM PDT by Principled (No one will conquer America, from within or without, until its citizenry are disarmed.)
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To: ameribbean expat

I couldn’t love this man more! #TRUMP2020


91 posted on 05/25/2019 3:36:40 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: naturalman1975

Downer was tricked, instructed, or coerced to meet with Papa. That does make sense.

What doesn’t make sense is why would Papa just up and request a meeting with Downer to say “hey mate, I’ve got some dirt on a candidate of a foreign election....”

Something stinks. Both of them were likely corralled into this.


92 posted on 05/25/2019 3:42:21 AM PDT by Principled (No one will conquer America, from within or without, until its citizenry are disarmed.)
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To: Principled

Downer was a Clinton toady.

https://thehill.com/376858-australian-diplomat-whose-tip-prompted-fbis-russia-probe-has-tie-to-clintons


93 posted on 05/25/2019 4:04:33 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Fred Nerks

The Clinton Foundation was an international jugernaut. It had conections with communists , socialists and progressives all over the world. And so the People voted serendipitously to end the governmental subjugation of America. The elected Donald Trump.

Now the world wide movement skeleton is being revealed to encompas Obama, Hillary, and prominant politcians in Britain, Australia, Cnada, and elsewhere. They supported an intelligence operation designed to usurp a duly elected president of the United States, under the cover of a non existant “Russia Collusion” narrative, back up by false documentation composed and arrayed and incestuously verified by a press which had information leaked to it.

we are very fortunate to have DOnald trump. And I hope he continues to unveil this nefarious attempt to subjugate the American people. Indictments need to be issued.


94 posted on 05/25/2019 4:21:34 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ameribbean expat

Deep State Target: How I Got Caught in the Crosshairs of the Plot to Bring Down President Trump

Excellent book about the Deep state and the Russia investigation.


95 posted on 05/25/2019 4:43:15 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: naturalman1975

Downer from Australia was directly responsible for threats and manipulations for the Deep State.


96 posted on 05/25/2019 4:44:21 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: naturalman1975
...interacting with an American idiot who doesn’t want to accept responsibility for his idiocy...

That's right -- an American idiot who was so stupid he left the $10,000 with his attorney so he couldn't be entrapped into bringing it into the US.

97 posted on 05/25/2019 4:46:12 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: naturalman1975

Actually it seems out of character for the man, others who know him agree, but he behaved out of character for a reason.


98 posted on 05/25/2019 4:47:38 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: thoughtomator

Great Britain was involved in a major way. Downer was just a messenger.


99 posted on 05/25/2019 4:53:39 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: naturalman1975
At the meeting, Papadopoulos - for whatever reason - told Downer the Russians had some sort of compromising information concerning Hilary Clinton. He knew who he was talking to - the representative of the Australian government in the United Kingdom. If he did not expect that information to be passed back to Canberra, he would have to be an absolute moron.

Sorry, the moron would have to be Downer. Let's be honest here. Hillary Clinton had a homebrew server in the basement/bathroom or whatever. The fact that Papadopoulos said the Russians had dirt on Hillary is news? That's laughable. It would be news if he said they didn't.

How terrible must the Austrian Government's Intelligence Service have to be to take gossip and blow it out of proportion? They would have to be the stupidest intelligence service on the planet.

The FBI started it's the investigation into Clinton's bathroom server nearly a year before. It's absurd to think that the Russian's didn't have this information and didn't hack the server. Hell, the emails were also on creepy Wiener's laptop.

Papadopoulos wasn't providing groundbreaking news. News so important that Downer had to report it to the intelligence services immediately. What a joke. It was widely speculated that her wide-open unsecured server had to have been hacked by every intelligence service in the world.

Downer expects everyone to believe that he was shocked, dumbfounded when he heard this gossip from a low-level Trump aid. He must have peed his pants when heard Russians want to interfere in an election (shocking, I tell you). Something that was common knowledge to anyone with two braincells.

100 posted on 05/25/2019 4:57:17 AM PDT by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg")
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