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The Second Amendment doesn't say that gun ownership has to be free of charge (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 16 apr 2019 | Dahleen Glanton

Posted on 04/16/2019 5:45:09 AM PDT by rellimpank

It’s just a fact of life that handguns are now permanent legal fixtures in the American landscape. We have to live with that.

But the freedom to own a firearm doesn’t mean it has to be free of charge. It doesn’t mean that owners can’t be a tiny bit inconvenienced. And someone’s right to own a gun certainly does not trump the safety rights of the rest of us.

This is what the pro-gun people don’t seem to understand.

Gun rights advocates in Illinois are in an uproar over legislation that is being debated in the General Assembly. The bill simply would make it harder for people who aren’t supposed to have guns to legally obtain them.

The amendment to House Bill 96, sponsored by Rep. Kathleen Willis, is one of several bills introduced in the aftermath of a multiple shooting at a manufacturing warehouse in Aurora in February.

Of course, we don’t know if stricter state laws could have stopped 45-year-old Gary Martin from shooting five co-workers to death, in addition to injuring five police officers, after learning he was to be terminated. But many Illinois residents are demanding that our lawmakers at least give it a try.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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To: Trump20162020

Trick question!
There is no gun crime in Chicago due to the very strict gun laws passed to protect the police officers of Chicago.


21 posted on 04/16/2019 6:11:44 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: grobdriver

I don’t think they’re that stupid. I think they are cunning, sinister and power-mad. Take Swalwell for instance. I think he KNOWs that outlaws would still have guns. But I believe his wicked, jealous heart craves power over you and me.....to the extent that he said he’d nuke us to get our firearms.


22 posted on 04/16/2019 6:12:34 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It ishttps://y impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: rellimpank

The first amendment DOESN’T SAY so-called journalists can’t be licensed, can’t be regularly tested, can’t go under civilian review, and can’t be be suspended for bias.


23 posted on 04/16/2019 6:15:22 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Trump20162020

“How much gun crime in Chicago is committed by black people?”

How much is committed by people that couldn’t legally own a gun? 90%? More?


24 posted on 04/16/2019 6:19:09 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: rellimpank

Freedom from tyranny is always expensive.


25 posted on 04/16/2019 6:22:45 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: rellimpank

Doesn’t talk about voting either. Let’s bring back the poll tax....oh wait...


26 posted on 04/16/2019 6:23:19 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: rellimpank

What? No more free guns? Oh man, what’ll they think of next? /s


27 posted on 04/16/2019 6:23:25 AM PDT by Prince of Space (UNBORN LIVES MATTER!)
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To: Trump20162020

Most or all of it.


28 posted on 04/16/2019 6:24:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: rellimpank

Then SHUT UP and QUIT WRITING, because nobody said freedom of speech was “free of charge”!


29 posted on 04/16/2019 6:29:57 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Tucker39

Swalwell wants the citizenry disarmed to serve a larger social purpose: when homes are invaded and helpless residents are robbed, beaten, or killed, the survivors will then experience a raised consciousness that makes them determined to address the “root causes” that caused the criminal driven by those causes to commit his dastardly act in the first place.

Liberal logic is so wonderful......


30 posted on 04/16/2019 6:32:37 AM PDT by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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To: a fool in paradise

Abortion. transgender surgery, and euthanasia


31 posted on 04/16/2019 6:42:13 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: rellimpank

So, I guess that the writer of this piece would happily pay a hefty fee to type her drivel?


32 posted on 04/16/2019 6:42:47 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: rellimpank
"Gun lovers don’t seem to have a substantive argument against Willis’ legislation."

What an idiot... Gun Lovers... Handguns are tools like hammers and saws. Made to perform a certain tasks that their designed to do..
Sure, lots of folks have guns for recreational purposes, but pistols are pretty much for up close protection of oneself and their own family..
If that blathering fool wants to know what gun owners love most, IT'S LAW AND ORDER..!! If you want to fix the shooting problems in Chicago, why not try getting the drug dealers and gang bangers off the streets...

33 posted on 04/16/2019 6:44:02 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: DesertRhino

I guess that, in the writer’s mind, it is not out of the question to pay a fee for the authorities to secure a search warrant before searching your property.


34 posted on 04/16/2019 6:45:17 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: TheZMan
Shall not be infringed

EVERYTHING the left does or suggests concerning "gun control" is EXACTLY intended to INFRINGE on the right of the individual.

35 posted on 04/16/2019 6:48:44 AM PDT by Tenacious 1
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To: rellimpank
But the freedom to own a firearm doesn’t mean it has to be free of charge.

Not in explicit language, no. But pray tell Dahleen, what part of "shall not be infringed" do you NOT understand?

36 posted on 04/16/2019 6:48:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A working definition of the new "Elite" would be; "Those who matter to those who think they matter.")
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To: rellimpank

How far the Chicago Trib has fallen since the pro-gun days of the 1930s.


37 posted on 04/16/2019 6:49:10 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: rellimpank
It’s just a fact of life that handguns are now permanent legal fixtures in the American landscape. We have to live with that.

Some ideas just take 240 years to sink in.

38 posted on 04/16/2019 6:52:12 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: rellimpank

Let’s see, we could require a license to write for publications, a civics test for voting, etc.


39 posted on 04/16/2019 6:55:28 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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That’s how you keep the low income people which are often “those with the wrong colored skin” from having guns that could interrupt Tiffany’s 16th birthday cotillion with all the other richies. Like in CT where it costs $116 at only one building in all of CT to get a long gun or ammo “certificate”.


40 posted on 04/16/2019 6:55:51 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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