Posted on 04/05/2019 1:46:23 PM PDT by Rummyfan
Ohio could decide to hand its votes in presidential elections over to the Democratic Party if a proposed ballot measure passes in November. If approved, the proposed constitutional amendment would award Ohio's electoral votes to the candidate who wins the national popular vote. The language of the ballot measure would enshrine the following in the state's constitution.
It is the expressed will of the People that every vote for President be valued equally and that the candidate who wins the most votes nationally becomes President. Therefore, the General Assembly shall within sixty days of the adoption of this amendment take all necessary legislative action so that the winner of the national popular vote is elected President.
In other words, Ohio would let states like California and New York essentially have veto power over the will of the state's voters in presidential elections — diluting the influence of rural and conservative voters in favor of the coastal elites in populous states that vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. Supporters, of course, would never frame it that way, but that is in essence what would happen if the national popular vote were used to decide how Ohio's electoral votes are allocated. It's a sneaky way to subvert the Electoral College without the messy work of amending the U.S. Constitution.
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
Dangerous because of the way it’s worded citing ‘will of the people’ etc., it could very well pass. It’s a constitutional amendment, not much way to get around it if it passes.
I can't imagine a quadrennial swing state like Ohio would pass such a thing. Not a single state that voted for Trump in 2016 has passed this crap, it has fewer electoral votes right now than big loser Hillary Clinton won.
The ‘RATS are depending upon the STUPIDITY of a chunk of the Ohio electorate. Hopefully the Ohio citizens will not be stupid enough to pass this. But, then again, they did re-elect Kasich.
One man one vote isn’t written into the Constitution, the Electoral College is
The “Resistance” started this with a petition with 1,000 signatures presented to Attorney General Dave Yost.
It is not on the ballot yet. Hopefully, there is time to educate the voters on the dangers of this amendment.
Isn’t this an agreement between states, which is explicitly forbidden? Why has this not already been challenged? Surely, we don’t have to wait for this to kick-in and create an Constitutional crises following an election.
One thing I’ve always wondered about this, and no one seems to talk about, is what happens in a scenario where the Republican wins the national popular vote, but the Democrat would have won under the Electoral College system? Like between the November election and December when the Electoral College votes, could a far-left, one-party Democrat rule state like California repeal the law, which would put the pact under 270 electoral votes and make it lose legal force in all signatory states, and thus have the Democratic presidential candidate win?
And not a mention in the article about vote fraud and ballot harvesting, also often conducted by illegals.
The DemocRats themselves will challenge it if it elects a Republican.
If this passes, there will be no need for a Democrat to campaign in Ohio. Since the Democrats will win the popular vote in California and New York they would automatically get all the electoral votes from Ohio even if the citizens vote for a Republican.
Personally I do not see how this will stand.
The smaller states better get their act together or they will soon find that no one is going to campaign in their states anymore.
Yes, it’s unconstitutional because a state is not allowed to legislate how Electors will vote.
Electors have always voted according to the voters of their state and for good reason. A State is not allowed to usurp the vote of an elector.
This will be met with a lawsuit down the road and it will be stopped.
For now, it’s just looney banter by Democrats who want to lower the voting age to 16, to register illegals and noncitizens to vote. to conduct ballot harvesting.
The left is in a panic That’s why this happening.
That’s ok.
Texas will pass a law in which whoever Texas votes for will receive a certified vote tally of 300M individual votes as well as our electoral votes.
Then Texas gets to pick who is president every time.
.... Wonder what would happen if enough states tallying 270 electoral votes did this?
I would go in effect, probably in 2024
Actually it's not a constitutional amendment at all. It's an end run around the constitution.
I can’t imagine small states, who only have any say so with the EC falling for it. But they are! NM legislature passed it and governor signed it yesterday I believe. The left is telling people when they get enough states to go along and pledge their EC votes to the popular vote winner (270 magic number) that will essentially do away with EC. They claim it is legal since states have the right to decide how their electors will vote.
To me it is underhanded and no idea if they are right but many people support it because they believe they will have more say so- not understanding how the EC works now at all.
When the Democrats take control of the Virginia legislature they will sign VA up too.
Do things work that way in Ohio....or do voters,in fact,have the power to write law?
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