Posted on 02/25/2019 8:22:33 PM PST by naturalman1975
The suppression order in relation to Cardinal George Pell has been lifted. In December, a jury of 12 of his fellow citizens found him guilty of five offences of child sexual abuse. No other charges are to proceed. Cardinal Pell has appealed the convictions. The verdict was unanimous. The jury took three days to deliberate after a four-week trial. The trial was in fact a re-run. At the first trial, the jury could not agree. The trial related to two alleged victims, one of whom had died.
Members of the public could attend those proceedings if they knew where to go in the Melbourne County Court. Members of the public could hear all the evidence except a recording of the complainant's evidence from the first trial. The complainant, who cannot be identified, did not give evidence at the retrial; the recording from the first trial was admitted as the complainant's evidence. The recording was available to the public only insofar as it was quoted by the barristers in their examination of other witnesses or in their final addresses to the jury, and by the judge in his charge to the jury. So, no member of the public has a complete picture of the evidence and no member of the public is able to make an assessment of the complainant's demeanour.
(Excerpt) Read more at eurekastreet.com.au ...
This is not just problematic if the person is innocent - but also if they are guilty. If fair trials cannot occur, how can genuine victims get any sort of justice.
Please read the article. I think it raises real points of concern.
If Pell is guilty, I hope his appeal fails and he rots in prison, and then burns in hell.
If.
I don’t think he’s guilty either. Not only was the “evidence” very shaky (and the “victims” shakier still), but the trial was conducted in true Star Chamber fashion. And, of course, they re-did it until they got the verdict they wanted.
Pell was basically thrown to the wolves by the Vatican because he was involved in the financial reforms that were exposing and breaking up the corruption surrounding Bergoglio and other high-ranking leftists in the Church. He had been appointed to do this and was doing an excellent job - of course, almost everything he did has been undone by Bergoglio and his corruptocracy.
He was also perceived as theologically and morally conservative, and thus when these phony charges came out of nowhere, Francis was only too happy to get rid of him.
I agree. He was railroaded. The prosecution jury shopped.
“The verdict was unanimous.” Suspicious.
Pell is innocent and calling him guilty while real criminal walk. Barry Bonds is still the home run king and Bergoglio is still the pope. Oh well. Pell is just earning a good spot on the next life.
I believe what you're saying is true, too.
Here's an article that explains how they proved that he couldn't have done it, but was convicted anyway.
He was finding a lot of dirt on the Vatican's finances, and I believe he was set up. I've been reading about attacks on him since the late 1990s. They've always hated him in Australia because he was such a conservative. Think of him as the Donald Trump of Australia: the press always attacking him, liberals always accusing him of terrible things, and he was always able to flat out prove he was innocent.
Thanks for that link. I think that the full story is not known.
Who knows for sure -not the outside world- but all of a sudden Pell turns on the Vatican powers-that-be and documents a load of financial/sexual/ corruption. Slush funds and loose money everywhere. And, probably shocking to Pell, nobody in the Vat saying or doing anything to rock the boat. The documents are out there. That much is fact. Strange but true (in quick succession) the powers that be in Australia begin extradition proceedings etc to put him on trial. What do we conclude?
A: there is no connection between Pell in the Vatican "throwing out the moneychangers" dramas and Australian Police/Prosecutors.... No person or group in the Vat has big money and big reputation, etc, at stake, no one has motive, no one is that desperate to maintain status quo...
B: Pell is just another pedo that justice finally caught up with after 30+ years, a ordinary legal proceeding.
Even secular ("no-friend-of-the-Church") observers in Australia say it was a ginned-up media witch-hunt from the beginning. The Peronist Pope threw Pell to the wolves.
I thought as much as soon as I heard the absurd charge (and this was his third trial on the same charge, right?)
Supposedly after a Solemn High Mass, hundreds of people in the church waiting to greet Pell and shake his hand, particularly because it's his first or second SHM in the Cathedral, a Sunday in Advent --- and he leaves the Recessional Procession, hies himself over to the Sacristy, big open room, sacristans and acolytes milling about, and, wearing his alb (floor-length, no opening at the front, cinctured at the waist) AND over that, his big, flowing Gothic chasuble (similarly floor-length, no opening in the front,and heavy, brocaded --- it needs help from the MC just to get it on and off --- he goes and lifts up, or pushes aside his vestments (which can't be done) in order to ---
It's just impossible. And he does this in 6 minutes --- it was specified 6 minutes --- 20 years ago?
I'm sorry. If he did it, I hope he goes up in flames and they have to scrape his remains off the floor. But if he's innocent, whole lotta people going to Judgment over this.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...
I had forgotten the particular details by I do remember the impossibility of the allegations. Thanks for filling in my blanks.
check out the St Gallen coat of Arms...
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