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Women Don’t Belong in Combat Units
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 13, 2019 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 01/14/2019 4:43:31 AM PST by reaganaut1

The Obama-era policy of integrating women into ground combat units is a misguided social experiment that threatens military readiness and wastes resources in the service of a political agenda. The next defense secretary should end it.

In September 2015 the Marine Corps released a study comparing the performance of gender-integrated and male-only infantry units in simulated combat. The all-male teams greatly outperformed the integrated teams, whether on shooting, surmounting obstacles or evacuating casualties. Female Marines were injured at more than six times the rate of men during preliminary training—unsurprising, since men’s higher testosterone levels produce stronger bones and muscles. Even the fittest women (which the study participants were) must work at maximal physical capacity when carrying a 100-pound pack or repeatedly loading heavy shells into a cannon.

Ignoring the Marine study, then-Defense Secretary Ash Carter opened all combat roles to women in December 2015. Rather than requiring new female combat recruits to meet the same physical standards as men, the military began crafting “gender neutral” standards in the hope that more women would qualify. Previously, women had been admitted to noncombat specialties under lower strength and endurance requirements.

Only two women have passed the Marine Corps’s fabled infantry-officer training course out of the three dozen who have tried. Most wash out in the combat endurance test, administered on day one. Participants hike miles while carrying combat loads of 80 pounds or more, climb 20-foot ropes multiple times, and scale an 8-foot barrier. The purpose of the test is to ensure that officers can hump their own equipment and still arrive at a battleground mentally and physically capable of leading troops. Most female aspirants couldn’t pass the test, so the Marines changed it from a pass/fail requirement to an unscored exercise with no bearing on the candidate’s ultimate evaluation.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: heathermacdonald; marines; military; militarywomen; trumpdod; womenincombat
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1 posted on 01/14/2019 4:43:31 AM PST by reaganaut1
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I think some women can be in some combat situations but only when tested and proved. The idea of just throwing all women into all combat situations is insane. Scientific Method; people! Come on!


2 posted on 01/14/2019 4:46:34 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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But....but....when I watch movies these days, the women all kick the mens a$$es. How can that be>


3 posted on 01/14/2019 4:48:19 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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anything you can do i can do better
(annie get your gun)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0


4 posted on 01/14/2019 4:51:17 AM PST by SteveH
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Israel is often cited for women in combat. There is one battalion that is virtually all women with other units being mixed. This hasn’t been tested much in combat, but you’d think it would be a boon to patriotism.


5 posted on 01/14/2019 4:55:04 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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Scorn them!

THAT’ll get ‘em moving!!


6 posted on 01/14/2019 4:56:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Heather Mac Donald is a treasure. She coined The Ferguson Effect and called out those pushing the anti-police narrative of the #BLM movement.


7 posted on 01/14/2019 4:56:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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There is one battalion that is virtually all women with other units being mixed.



Rush Limbaugh was onto something...

All American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion

8 posted on 01/14/2019 4:57:29 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Only two women have passed the Marine Corps’s fabled infantry-officer training course out of the three dozen who have tried.
 
 
 
 
 
Let ME do the pre-selecting!!

9 posted on 01/14/2019 5:05:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Until they desegregate bathrooms, berthing areas, Barracks... It’ll still all be segregated and therefore costing twice as much, while reducing deficiencies and readiness. We’ve all seen Alien 2 and 3 and whatever... The sexes (and now genders too) all do everything together! That’s the goal. It’s hard to believe that science fiction is a goal... But that’s kind of what it’s become


10 posted on 01/14/2019 5:06:16 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed it wright.)
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From Fall 2015, here are some comments I’ve posted before from my niece’s then boyfriend, now my nephew-in-law, on the women Rangers and the convenient loss of their training records. He had recently ended a Marine enlistment, was going to school on the GI Bill.

He was a Marine 240 gunner, spent time in Afghanistan, this guy is serious business, we probably wish he’d gone to SEAL school, he’d have had a much better than average shot at it. Here’s his commentary on the Ranger school records debacle:

“Oh trust me, I’m aware. S*** makes my blood boil. I’m not even phased by the fact that they’re deliberately hiding the records of the females’ performance. I can only imagine how heavily that course was catered to the females, not to mention the fact that they probably outranked the entire instructor cadre.

We had a female interpreter in afghan, she was at the Company COP so I never saw her. She ended up having an affair with our Co 1st Sgt (surprise).

We also worked with the Brits for a while, since they had a patrol base not far from my squads pb. They also happened to bring in a female interpreter...pregnant in under 2 months, and sent home. Probably got an award for it.

Even if there were females that could meet the minimum physical requirements for the infantry, that s*** will never work. It’ll be detrimental to the combat effectiveness of whatever unit they end up in. Let’s not forget the American “victim” mentality as of late. I can’t even fathom how many sexual harassment cases that would be filed. Then the rape accusations, pregnancies, relationships affecting roles and promotions, oh and the fact that no woman on the planet could firemans carry my 240lb a** with 100+lbs of gear out of a kill zone.

Rant over.

< next email, a few minutes later>

Ok I lied, rant wasn’t finished.

At the schoolhouse I taught at, we brought in non infantry units (POGs) and put them through several infantry centric courses. We had a strict standard of training and had no issues failing females or Marines that outranked us as instructors. This brought us some attention from higher ups on one occasion. A female warrant officer brought pizza for all 50 of “her” marines in our course. During their final exercise. We stopped her and reminded her of the fact that no outside food was permitted in our course. She returned with, “The four females I have in the class are going to feel sexually harassed by you if you don’t let them eat this pizza”.

Needless to say, he’s all in on keeping women out of combat arms.


11 posted on 01/14/2019 5:06:27 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Until they desegregate bathrooms, berthing areas, Barracks... It’ll still all be segregated and therefore costing twice as much, while reducing efficiencies and readiness. We’ve all seen Alien 2 and 3 and whatever... The sexes (and now genders too) all do everything together! That’s the goal. It’s hard to believe that science fiction is a goal... But that’s kind of what it’s become


12 posted on 01/14/2019 5:07:41 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed it wright.)
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To: reaganaut1

Women do just fine in combat situations, as long as there’s a man around in case anything goes wrong.


13 posted on 01/14/2019 5:10:13 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: \/\/ayne

When the body bag pile gets high enough this will get rethought.


14 posted on 01/14/2019 5:11:39 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: reaganaut1

aren’t men and women supposed to be the same, and/or interchangeable? I guess not, but don’t expect the dem science denial party to believe scientific facts.


15 posted on 01/14/2019 5:15:21 AM PST by euram
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“Israel is often cited for women in combat. There is one battalion that is virtually all women with other units being mixed. This hasn’t been tested much in combat, but you’d think it would be a boon to patriotism.”

In Israel, a woman in combat is a psychological thing. Scares the crap out of the muzzie men.


16 posted on 01/14/2019 5:25:39 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We The People" have turned into "You, The Subjects.")
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“Women Don’t Belong in Combat Units”

Common sense, a voice in the wilderness, and they don’t belong in the front lines of police work.


17 posted on 01/14/2019 5:28:03 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: euram

OH, if we could pick and chose who to send into combat it would solve a lot of problems. I can think of several females I’d like to send to the front lines.


18 posted on 01/14/2019 5:28:27 AM PST by oldasrocks
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To: reaganaut1

When they put women in hardship areas, many tend to get knocked up as soon as possible so as to get their ticket out of the service, all the expense of training them flushed down the toilet.


19 posted on 01/14/2019 5:29:03 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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Kick out all the women and you’re going to need to recruit a lot more guys. Where are you going to get them when the military is already having problems attracting recruits.


20 posted on 01/14/2019 5:34:23 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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