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America Needs Virtue before Prosperity: A Response to Tucker Carlson
National Review ^ | 01/08/2019 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 01/08/2019 8:27:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind

This week, Fox News’ Tucker Carlson generated a veritable firestorm over his pitch for a new brand of American populism. In truth, his brand of populism isn’t particularly new — it’s a merger of Pat Buchanan–era paleoconservatism and Bush-era compassionate conservatism. It’s an attempt to rally government behind preferred conservative causes — rebuilding the family chief among them — rather than recognizing that government is typically an obstacle to those causes; it’s an attempt to fill a gap in the soul with a policy-based solution.

Here’s Carlson’s explanation of markets:

Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster. You’d have to be a fool to worship it. Our system was created by human beings for the benefit of human beings. We do not exist to serve markets. Just the opposite. Any economic system that weakens and destroys families is not worth having. A system like that is the enemy of a healthy society.

This sounds far more like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren than it does like Ronald Reagan or Milton Friedman. That’s because the democratic socialist movement has a lot in common with the economic populism of the Right. The Marxist Left claims that human failings are the result of private property–based economic systems; therefore, private property–based systems must be destroyed. Social democrats like Sanders and Warren agree, but also acknowledge the inherent power of markets (although Sanders speaks more like a Marxist than a social democrat). Social democrats believe that shackling the power of the market to the redistributive and regulatory power of the state represents the best way forward. That’s why Sanders and Warren use the Nordic states as their models, rather than Cuba or the Soviet Union.

The populist Right largely agrees. Carlson explicitly states, along with Sanders and Warren, that voluntary decisions can amount to exploitation; he blames rich Americans for somehow, in unspecified fashion, convincing poorer Americans to conceive children out of wedlock. The free-market system, according to Carlson, has provided us with a lot of stuff, and “yet drug addiction and suicide are depopulating large parts of the country.” Therefore, free markets are responsible for our empty souls as well as for our fuller fridges.

But that’s untrue. Typically, religious thinkers, as well as our founding fathers, recognized that prosperity could not exist without freedom, and that freedom could not exist without virtue. Free markets, in fact, were a result of certain virtuous underpinnings and fundamental conceptions about the value of individual human beings: Human beings were made in the image of God, had special value, were masters of their own labor, and could freely alienate that labor in voluntary transactions with others. Separating freedom from virtue would undercut freedom itself — we would inevitably begin to twist freedom to harm others as well as ourselves. As George Washington put it, “of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. . . . Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.” James Madison agreed: “To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea.”

Without religion and morality we could, for a time, remain rich. But we would then begin to subject our freedoms to our own tyrannical impulses. In the founding view, the chief threat to freedom came from lack of virtue; perhaps the chief threat to virtue came from desire for material gain, disconnected from the virtuous social fabric. If we became addicted to stuff rather than to virtue, if we began to think that stuff could replace virtue, then we would inevitably undercut the basis of our own commercial republic.

Ironically, though, Carlson’s claim that material gain isn’t enough to provide happiness doesn’t lead him back to virtue, which would bolster additional freedom. It leads him to the same material solutions that undercut virtue in the first place.

It’s easy to reduce governmental debates to questions of resource allocation and governmental priorities. That’s essentially the fight between Left and Right in Europe: a fight between populists who wish to hijack government for their own ends and Leftists who wish to hijack government for theirs. But that was never the American discovery. America guaranteed us adventure, not happiness. To succeed in that adventure — to maintain the possibility of that adventure — required a social fabric built on virtue. If we fail to make virtuous decisions on an individual level, we can’t blame that on tariffs or payday lenders. And if we do, we’re part of the problem.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: prosperity; tuckercarlson; virtue
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1 posted on 01/08/2019 8:27:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro and NRO are never-Trumpers and their links should not be allowed on this site.


2 posted on 01/08/2019 8:30:44 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

RE: Shapiro and NRO are never-Trumpers and their links should not be allowed on this site.

Shapiro IS NOT ( repeat IS NOT ) a NeverTrumper.

He is a self-proclaimed “Sometime Trumper”... supporting him when he thinks he’s right and criticizing him when he thinks he’s wrong.


3 posted on 01/08/2019 8:35:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t this the same Ben Shapiro who called Trump immoral for the Muslim ban, even though he’s written a bunch of articles about uprooting and deporting all Palestinians from Israel?

He is a hack who plays with words and virtue without believing or possessing any of what he espouses.


4 posted on 01/08/2019 8:36:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Mariner

READ THIS:

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1000099221939343361

“I called myself a Never Trumper, which stopped applying the day of the election. Now, as I’ve said, I’m a Sometimes Trumper.”


5 posted on 01/08/2019 8:36:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

WATCH THIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5_NOOGs_8

Ben Shapiro Explains How Trump Refugee Order Is NOT A Muslim Ban


6 posted on 01/08/2019 8:37:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not really understanding Ben's beef with Tucker here...

Can anyone help a brother out?

7 posted on 01/08/2019 8:38:13 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: SeekAndFind

Baloney! Shapiro should be more careful. Not only is his analysis baloney, it’s not kosher baloney. Like William Krystal, he’s making sausage by using adulterated logic. Heaven only knows what’s in their portfolios.


8 posted on 01/08/2019 8:38:36 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Flaming Conservative

RE: Not only is his analysis baloney

Can you elaborate?


9 posted on 01/08/2019 8:40:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Here is Shapiro’s beef:

Carlson’s claim that material gain isn’t enough to provide happiness doesn’t lead him back to virtue, which would bolster additional freedom. It leads him to the same material solutions that undercut virtue in the first place.


10 posted on 01/08/2019 8:42:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is a hypocrite and a mercenary at best. Recall he also promoted the Lewandowski attack, saying we had a duty to believe that stupid whore who hoaxes getting beaten up.

Shapiro never apologized for that and has only come off Never Trumpism a little bit to keep his Audience. You are foolish to not recognize his deception.


11 posted on 01/08/2019 8:43:33 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is a never Trump magpie being pushed forward now. No thanks


12 posted on 01/08/2019 8:44:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is a never Trump magpie being pushed forward now. No thanks


13 posted on 01/08/2019 8:44:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

RE: Shapiro never apologized for that and has only come off Never Trumpism a little bit to keep his Audience.

I’ve been listening to his show on the drive time radio. I have NEVER had the impression that he was a NEVER ( as in will NEVER support Trump no matter what he does ) TRUMPER.

Listen to him before jumping into conclusions. For instance, On the issue of the day — THE WALL, Ben Shapiro SUPPORTS Trump.

See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh1JM1nkRnY

and here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04BGTwbZx30

and here:

https://www.facebook.com/officialbenshapiro/videos/walls-work-build-the-wall/359593258174902/


14 posted on 01/08/2019 8:47:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: DesertRhino

READ THIS:

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1000099221939343361

“I called myself a Never Trumper, which stopped applying the day of the election. Now, as I’ve said, I’m a Sometimes Trumper.”


15 posted on 01/08/2019 8:47:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: All

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” “Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.” “A nation as a society forms a moral person, and every member of it is personally responsible for his society.”

- John Adams


16 posted on 01/08/2019 8:48:30 AM PST by Simon Foxx
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To: SeekAndFind

“Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion…are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
—Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence


17 posted on 01/08/2019 8:50:49 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There were a whole bunch of people who were reserved about Trump in 2016 because of his erratic personal life, who have been happily surprised by his actions as president. Shapiro is one of them.


18 posted on 01/08/2019 8:51:57 AM PST by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind
It leads him to the same material solutions that undercut virtue in the first place.

Right, but what solutions?

Unless Shapiro is suggesting everyone pick up a copy of Seneca's Letters, the way forward is...?

19 posted on 01/08/2019 8:52:18 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster. You’d have to be a fool to worship it. Our system was created by human beings for the benefit of human beings. We do not exist to serve markets. Just the opposite. Any economic system that weakens and destroys families is not worth having. A system like that is the enemy of a healthy society."

One of Marx's greatest deceptions was the invention of the term, "capitalism." It made the concepts of free markets, just another, "-ism," a defined system whose merits and faults can be debated in relation to other, "-isms". Mere use of the word, "capitalism," allows Marx to set the terms of the debate. To the contrary, free markets are not an "ism" with rules, predictable patterns, borders, etc defined by anybody but each individual participant in it. Free markets are how civil people interact with one another and conduct their commerce to satisfy their needs and wants. There may be agreed upon rules (i.e., against fraud, breach of contract, etc.) but these do not in and of themselves define a system. Free markets are not an "ism" any more than an ocean or river are a plumbing system.

20 posted on 01/08/2019 8:55:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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