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Marijuana Is More Dangerous Than You Think
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 3, 2019 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 01/03/2019 8:36:53 AM PST by reaganaut1

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The most obvious way that cannabis fuels violence in psychotic people is through its tendency to cause paranoia. Even marijuana advocates acknowledge that the drug can cause paranoia; the risk is so obvious that users joke about it, and dispensaries advertise certain strains as less likely to do so. But for people with psychotic disorders, paranoia can fuel extreme violence. A 2007 paper in the Medical Journal of Australia looked at 88 defendants who had committed homicide during psychotic episodes. It found that most of the killers believed they were in danger from the victim, and almost two-thirds reported misusing cannabis—more than alcohol and amphetamines combined.

The link between marijuana and violence doesn’t appear limited to people with pre-existing psychosis. Researchers have studied alcohol and violence for generations, proving that alcohol is a risk factor for domestic abuse, assault and even murder. Far less work has been done on marijuana, in part because advocates have stigmatized anyone who raises the issue. Still, there are studies showing that marijuana use is a significant risk factor for violence.

A 2012 paper in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence, examining a federal survey of more than 9,000 adolescents, found that marijuana use was associated with a doubling of domestic violence in the U.S. A 2017 paper in the journal Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology, examining drivers of violence among 6,000 British and Chinese men, found that drug use was linked to a fivefold increase in violence, and the drug used was nearly always cannabis.

Before states legalized recreational cannabis, advocates predicted that legalization would let police focus on hardened criminals rather than on marijuana smokers and thus reduce violent crime.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: addiction; cannabis; dopefiends; freedom; godsplant; junkscience; libertines; marijuana; medicaluses; medicine; mrleroy; pitbulls; pot; potheads; tattoos; wod
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To: JohnBrowdie

Yes, it goes to pot.


21 posted on 01/03/2019 8:52:08 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: reaganaut1

I think it should be a states rights issue. But I also think that a couple states should go full legalization and the others should sit back and watch the results for ten years or so.

Having been to Washington State recently and seen hordes of shiftless stoned out young people waiting in line for free food, I have a pretty good idea where the results will come in, should they be honestly reported.

On the medical side, if one has a truly chronic or terminal disease, do whatever you want. My state recently passed medical marijuana laws and judging by the number of dispensaries that have opened, our state must lead the nation in chronic illnesses, or people and doctors are just cheating.


22 posted on 01/03/2019 8:52:56 AM PST by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: livius
a family member who is a LEO in a state that legalized pot a few years ago said that in 100% of the fatal automobile accidents, there was marijuana in the blood of one of the drivers involved.

Statewide? I call Bravo Sierra.

23 posted on 01/03/2019 8:53:42 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: reaganaut1

Seems like a lot of correlation but not much causation in this article.


24 posted on 01/03/2019 8:53:49 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: reaganaut1; All

For consideration:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6249575


25 posted on 01/03/2019 8:54:32 AM PST by George Rand (-- I can't befriend liberals because I won't befriend ignorance --)
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To: livius
I knew people in the 80s in CA who were feeding it to their children in cookies. They thought it was “healthy.”

It’s not healthy, especially for adolescents, but social approval by the left has promoted it. We wouldn’t approve this use for alcohol, so why approve it for a substance which is quite possibly more dangerous?

Nobody proposed legally approving such uses of pot - and your stories show that criminalization didn't prevent extralegal approval.

26 posted on 01/03/2019 8:56:00 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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But pot literally cures every single malady from lung cancer to decapitation


27 posted on 01/03/2019 8:56:07 AM PST by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: reaganaut1

Marijuana, tobacco and alcohol should all be illegal.


28 posted on 01/03/2019 8:57:03 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: George Rand
So all androgen inhibitors should be illegal?
29 posted on 01/03/2019 8:57:52 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SaxxonWoods
Marijuana, tobacco and alcohol should all be illegal.

That policy would at least have the virtue of consistency.

30 posted on 01/03/2019 8:58:43 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: allendale

While I don’t disagree that smoking pot is unsafe during pregnancy, understand that there is no lethal dose for THC-at least when smoked. Weed is not toxic. Not sure about extracts, but suspect it would take a nearly impossible amount to get to lc/ld 50.

Also not saying weed is hazard free. Neither is alcohol, which is toxic and obviously has an lc/ld 50.


31 posted on 01/03/2019 8:59:49 AM PST by zek157
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To: NobleFree

All three are above the danger line, cause may problems and should be illegal. Alcohol is the worst, but they all qualify as too dangerous.


32 posted on 01/03/2019 9:01:07 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: reaganaut1
Over the past 30 years, a shrewd and expensive lobbying campaign has made Americans more tolerant of marijuana.

Probably has more to do with Americans' personal observations of marijuana use, IMO.

And what about the expensive lobbying campaign against marijuana?

33 posted on 01/03/2019 9:02:57 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Mr. K

I don’t know anything about pot and paranoia. For a year or so, in the late 70s, I indulged. Towards the end of that stage, I started suffering from anxiety while high. I hated it; it was scary. Therfore, I had to quit. I was wondering if anyone else had this side effect? Or if this is a common occurance? But in the end, i think that if something is narural, it should not be illegal. It’s a plant! Now alcohol? There is human interaction to produce the final product. Especially distilling. How bout dat.


34 posted on 01/03/2019 9:03:38 AM PST by Deepeasttx
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To: notaliberal

People that are all doped up are less likely to vote.


35 posted on 01/03/2019 9:04:02 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: JohnBrowdie

...aww, hell. pot thread. we all know what happens next.

Another protracted thread pitting
Authoritarian Conservatives vs Libertarian Conservatives

Popcorn


36 posted on 01/03/2019 9:04:05 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: SaxxonWoods
they all qualify as too dangerous.

What are the general criteria for that determination?

37 posted on 01/03/2019 9:04:13 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: reaganaut1

I always thought the paranoia was caused by the illegal status of the drug and the possibility of being caught and punished for using it.

My main objection to legalization (as opposed to decriminalization) is that when the users have toked themselves into befuddled unemployability it will be declared a disease and they will go on the dole. Then you and I have to pay to keep them housed, fed and high.


38 posted on 01/03/2019 9:04:55 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: cuban leaf
People that are all doped up are less likely to vote.

Good! Too many idiots vote as it is.

39 posted on 01/03/2019 9:05:32 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: reaganaut1
THE worst mistake that some conservatives and libertarians did was support the myth that marijuana is harmless and/or medicine and/or promulgated it's acceptance by not fighting it's legalization everywhere.

Acceptable DRUG use primarily marijuana was one of the key catalysts for a whole generation of lost people in the 60's and 70's. It contributed GREATLY to the left's takeover of our institutions. It contributed to the economic malaise of the late 60's and 70's. Ronald Reagan SAW this which was why he set an anti-pot tone in his administration. Unfortunately ever since then the left has snuck it back into society often with the help of libertarians who cry "freedom" when it comes to pot.

It doesn't take a genius to look at history and see how negatively widespread drug use kills a society and a culture.

40 posted on 01/03/2019 9:05:42 AM PST by DouglasKC
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