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To: Jeff Chandler

“1.) Drop the gun.

2.) Put your hands up.”

I posted this hypothetical situation a few days ago and got no response. What about you? This is not a challenge, just a mental exercise.

Hypothetical situation in relation to the recent killing by police of a security guard. You’ve just taken down an armed person who tried to rob you. You didn’t have to shoot them, but in the end you are on top of a face down person who still has their gun under them. They are not moving or giving you reason to shoot them at that moment, then the police show up. If you put your gun down the bad guy is very likely to shoot you or one of the police officers. How much ‘splainin are the police going to listen to from you? They probably won’t even hear it over either their shouted commands at you to drop the gun or their own gunfire directed at you. I could think of several other scenarios where being armed would be problematic. By the way I carry, and I think about these types of situations.


24 posted on 12/11/2018 7:48:11 AM PST by suthener
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To: suthener

1) It’s fairly obvious that few people on this thread actually read the article.

2) The article should be required reading for all armed public servants; failure to understand and heed the ideas discussed in the article should be grounds for immediate dismissal from public service.


25 posted on 12/11/2018 7:50:58 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: suthener

If a person tried to rob me at gunpoint and I were able to draw my weapon I would have shot him at least twice, unless he shot me first.

Never draw your weapon unless you intend to use it.


27 posted on 12/11/2018 7:54:11 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: suthener
If you put your gun down the bad guy is very likely to shoot you or one of the officers.

You cannot expect to survive in that scenario. Most likely, you will be shot by either the perpetrator or one of the responding officers.

If you are very lucky, the responders may be calm, approach from sound tactical cover, and give verbal commands that allow you to de-escalate. The perpetrator may also stay calm and follow police commands.

Counting on luck is a bad tactical plan. Best to be several body lengths distance away from a perpetrator, and have a weapon holstered when officers show up. Hands in plain view as well. Expect a lot of confusion and a possible arrest. Don't talk.

36 posted on 12/11/2018 8:14:20 AM PST by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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