Posted on 09/12/2018 9:01:09 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
Anyone who has ever followed British tabloids’ coverage of Germany (“Germans declare war on our pound”) will know that some of the divisions of World War II have yet to fully disappear.
That’s even more true for two countries that 70 years later are actually still at war: Japan and Russia.
It turns out that the two countries never signed a peace treaty after World War II — and the world would probably have forgotten about that unresolved chapter of world history were they not seeking peace now. Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe brought the issue back into the spotlight Wednesday when they suggested that they would seek common ground for an official peace deal more than 70 years after the end of hostilities.
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Shouldn’t they have to sign a peace treaty with all the former member states of the Soviet Union, not just Russia then?
The Soviet Union seized the Keuril (so?) islands from Japan in the last two weeks of the war when they jumped in. They didn’t give them back and claimed they annexed the islands. Japan refused to recognize the seizure of some of its territory. Ergo, no peace treaty. If Putin wants a peace treaty, he’s gonna have to give the islands back.
I recently finished a book on the history of Japan. Very strange land.
One of the interesting things is after the war ended, the Russian ambassador, a general told MacArthur that Russia was going to occupy part of Japan.
MacArthur told him that if a single Russian soldier entered Japan, he and the ambassador would be immediately shot.
The Soviet Union was dissolved by their own action, representatives and executives, freeing member states (including Russia) to negotiate individually with Japan, as the collective organization no longer exists.
Stalin agreed to enter the War with Japan by Roosevelt's request, at Yalta.
It may not be necessary for ex Soviet Union States other than Russia to negotiate a treaty if they have no areas of conflict.
[The Soviet Union seized the Keuril (so?) islands from Japan in the last two weeks of the war when they jumped in. They didn’t give them back and claimed they annexed the islands. Japan refused to recognize the seizure of some of its territory. Ergo, no peace treaty. If Putin wants a peace treaty, he’s gonna have to give the islands back.]
The largest part of the Soviet Union's ability to Resist Germany was entirely dependent on this supply line.
At US request, Stalin did not declare hostilities with Japan to reduce the possibility that Japan would move against this supply line, despite repeated requests to do so by Germany.
After Germany's surrender there was no need to protect this supply line, so Roosevelt reversed his instruction to Stalin primarily for Socialist benefit, as Stalin's communists would take the spoils not American Capitalists.
It was Yalta. Stalin agreed to enter the war against Japan 100 days after the European theater ended. We dropped the bomb on day 97. 3 days later what do you expect the Russians to do. Had we waited a week and Russia sat on its hands it still wouldn’t matter.
Russia wanted the 4 islands + credit for helping the war end.
That is correct, these events were determined by Roosevelt and his requests, Stalin, (much as I dislike him) simply did what he agreed to do.
Russia will have to give back the Kurile Islands if they want a peace treaty with Japan.
Period.
They signed away all rights to the Kurile islands in the 1951 San Francisco peace treaty. I doubt they will ever get them back.
When you start a war, you lose things when you get defeated.
It has always been thus.
Return the Northern Territories!
Interesting factoid. The Jap fleet that attacked Pearl Harbor began its voyage from a harbor in the Kurile Islands.
Stalin agreed to enter the war 2 to 3 months after the end of the war in Europe. He did so 3 months exactly after Germany surrendered, and 6 days before the Japanese agreed to surrender.
The price of a peace treaty for Russia is the return of the islands.
Or the Japanese can wait until Russia eventually crumbles and falls and then just quietly retake them and then make peace with whatever replaces Russia.
Or maybe that will be China after China invades and occupies Siberia.
In any case, Russia is a declining empire and the glory days of the USSR are well behind them. The sooner they accept this then the sooner they can focus on taking care of the little rump state they will become by the end of this century if not sooner.
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