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1 posted on 09/09/2018 2:29:00 PM PDT by lowbridge
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Ugh.


2 posted on 09/09/2018 2:30:49 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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No, you're going to make a co-op and split the costs and income from the work of the various business owners.
3 posted on 09/09/2018 2:33:58 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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I spose next time I need a hairs cut I’ll find out IF my favorite shop is still in business.


4 posted on 09/09/2018 2:34:31 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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But I do have to ask; since Lyft & Uber do provide their own services, wouldn't all Lyft and Uber drivers have to be hourly paid employees instead of independent contractors under this ruling?

It would be an utter fantasy to limit it to one physical location in this case, since their places of businesses are around the world. If they provide their own services, then neither should be able to pay people as independent contractors.

5 posted on 09/09/2018 2:35:40 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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What were the democrats complaining about the other day during the Kavanaugh hearings? Oh, yeah, the real world impact of their rulings on real people.


6 posted on 09/09/2018 2:35:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Maybe the barbers create their own LLC businesses and then contract corp-to-corp with the barbershop as a business transaction. They then file Schedule C on their tax return. Not a big complication beyond the cost and paperwork to create and maintain the LLC. Probably a fortune in California.


7 posted on 09/09/2018 2:37:43 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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So a software company can’t hire contractors?

How bizarre...


8 posted on 09/09/2018 2:38:07 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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Illiterate morons work in the press today.

“Historically, the cosmetology industry, which includes barbers and hair stylists, have been classified as independent contractors...”


9 posted on 09/09/2018 2:39:43 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The reason we are developing the gig economy is the state, federal and local employment laws basically mean that if you employ someone, you really need a lawyer on staff to keep from getting big fines. A man I know had no work one week and didn’t therefore have any pay for his workers. He failed to file a form telling the state that there was no work that week and got fined several thousand dollars. (More money than if he’d paid everybody.) Then there’s the requirements for insurance, bonds, unemployment “insurance” (another tax) and social security, etc. If you make a mistake, even ten bucks, you will get fined. My friend was fined so much for nitpicking little things that he had to hire a service to handle the paperwork. The fines almost drove him into bankruptcy. But the service costs money too. He told me that many weeks he, himself, makes nothing.


10 posted on 09/09/2018 2:42:04 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Good grief...CA wants to boost is’s employment numbers? Are they looking for more payroll taxes?

Employers are going to scream because making your former employees independent contractors saves the employers tons of money! It means they don’t pay for workers compensation insurance, no need to offer benefits etc...They’re going to be PO’d.


11 posted on 09/09/2018 2:43:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Keep voting for the totalitarian party. Maybe free by haircuts for everyone is their next cause.


12 posted on 09/09/2018 2:43:21 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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Real Estate agents would be classified as employees under this bizarre law as well...


13 posted on 09/09/2018 2:44:20 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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It doesn’t just affect my business, it affects every independent contractor in the state of California,” said Gianotti.

No joke, in nearly all fields in CA employers have changed tens of thousands of people who were once employees, into independent contractors. This is a very big deal and not a good one for employers.

16 posted on 09/09/2018 2:47:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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From page 2 of the unanimous opinion in Dynamex Operations West, Inc. v. Superior Court (emphasis added):


In recent years, the relevant regulatory agencies of both the federal and state governments have declared that the misclassification of workers as independent contractors rather than employees is a very serious problem, depriving federal and state governments of billions of dollars in tax revenue and millions of workers of the labor law protections to which they are entitled.2


2 See United States Department of Labor, Wage & Hour Division, Misclassification of Employees as Independent Contractors <https://www.dol.gov/whd/workers/misclassification/> (as of Apr. 30, 2018); California Department of Industrial Relations, Worker Misclassification <http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/worker_misclassification.html> (as of Apr. 30, 2018);

18 posted on 09/09/2018 2:49:45 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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Being contractors is not a wholly one sided transaction that favors a business employing the contractors. Contractors can have more input on days and hous they will be available for work. That can be very positive for contractors with other jobs or where the contract work is only part time and it is only part-time they seek.

For instance my barber is a contractor who gets a chair at a local barbershop for certain hours and days of the week. I make my appointments with him, or the shop owner, obtaining only days and times my barber will be available. My barber benefits and so does the shop owner. If my barber had to employee him as an employee, their business relationship, as well as mine with my barber, would likely end.

What is wrong with the Marxists and business regulations? Their economic views are myopic from a political perspective, seeing everything through a Marxist diaaletic lens with “business owners/capitalists” as “bad guys” and everyone else as just “exploited” by business owners and all “workers” not getting their “fair share” of the “value added” in products or services.

So under their rules my barber would get zero share of zero work.


20 posted on 09/09/2018 2:52:47 PM PDT by Wuli
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Much like in NY I’ve been told that small business who pay rent must give the landlord a form to file out claiming the rent for the year and the small business owner must submit this form with his taxes. The business owner is now responsible for the land lord claims to rent. If not filed both can be fined heavily.


23 posted on 09/09/2018 2:54:56 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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This is the state which Hussein asked to “return sanity”


24 posted on 09/09/2018 2:57:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Liberal hypocrites like Bill Gates abused contractor status by hiring employees as contractors for years on end so they could avoid having to pay benefits, etc.

Other liberals fighting this liberal hypocrisy create a law to prevent this, but the law paints with a huge brush and doesn't take into account all situations such as that with barbers.

Hypocrisy followed by idiocy. Liberalism in action.

25 posted on 09/09/2018 2:57:38 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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Sounds like the unions want to unionize them for their union dues.


26 posted on 09/09/2018 2:58:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif"> zXSEP5Z, Audt7QO. xnKL3lW, RZ9yuyQ. XywCCJd, zQ9Ghyq.)
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More black robe tyranny.

Sh!t, it’s everywhere the fed state appealet and some Supremes (Diana Ross excluded).

5.56mm


27 posted on 09/09/2018 3:00:34 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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