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When Digital Platforms Become Censors
WSJ ^ | AUGUST 17, 2018 | GLENN HARLAN REYNOLDS

Posted on 08/17/2018 9:47:15 PM PDT by lasereye

Edited on 08/17/2018 10:18:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Call 2018 the

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KEYWORDS: apple; facebook; fascistbook; google; markzuckerberg; mediawingofthednc; orwellian; partisanmediashills; pinterest; presstitutes; smearmachine; socialmedia; spotify; twitter; youtube; zuckerberg
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I keep asking the same question:

When are some bright young conservatives going to create conservative versions of all these platforms?

They should be explicitly conservative and advertised as such. I predict they would fairly quickly get ten million or more users - maybe a lot more. They would be a lot smaller than the dominant platforms, but it wouldn't matter. Being bigger than Facebook, Twitter etc. isn't the point. The founders of these websites would still get rich. By being openly inhospitable to conservatives, the left wing platforms have created a huge opening - big enough to drive a truck through to me - for anyone who has the expertise.

1 posted on 08/17/2018 9:47:15 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

Social media has gotten by, claiming to be a neutral platform for all views (which is clearly NOT true). As they exert control over content, they lose that exemption from libel laws and can be held to the same standard as any other media outlet. This is a big deal.


2 posted on 08/17/2018 9:53:35 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: lasereye
When digital platforms become censors, new digital platforms arise.

E.g., BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/video/dp3BJ0uG6PV0/

3 posted on 08/17/2018 9:54:11 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: lasereye

Its time for a heavy dose of federal regulation of Big Tech.

Repeal section 320. Start regulating them not as conduits but as media which they effectively are.

The DOJ should look into antitrust actions against Google, Facebook, Twitter and Amazon especially.

Oh and of course they are effectively the digital town square as the 9th circuit ruled a privately owned mall on private land is - and as such they could not bar protestors from coming onto their property.


4 posted on 08/17/2018 10:13:32 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: lasereye

We need a majority in Congress to facilitate more conservative judge appointments. Get the vote out in the midterm elections this year!


5 posted on 08/17/2018 10:15:15 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: lasereye
"When are some bright young conservatives going to create conservative versions of all these platforms?"

When some big corporate sponsors miraculously turn to the right.


6 posted on 08/17/2018 10:20:00 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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>> When are some bright young conservatives going to create conservative versions of all these platforms?

The snakes eventually find their way in, and shame inventor until he capitulates.


7 posted on 08/17/2018 10:31:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: lasereye

I think this approach is dangerous. I don’t think it wise for conservatives to agree to confine themselves to a marginalized digital ghetto now that the big tech companies have established themselves as virtual monopolies. Notice they were open and tolerant of everybody until they got big enough to start censoring. They know if we try to split off, we’d only be hurting ourselves.

A far better approach IMO is to break them up via antitrust action or use the power of government to strongarm them into allowing full freedom of expression again like they used to be. I think most of the public would support this.


8 posted on 08/17/2018 10:35:02 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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Start regulating them not as conduits but as media which they effectively are.

The government can't regulate media. It is protected under the First.

It would be more appropriate to regulate the social media giants as public accommodations. Think Motel 6, but for conversation, not for staying overnight.

Then Alex Jones would be able to sue them the way faggots sue bakers who decline to decorate gay wedding cakes in ways offensive to their moral beliefs.

Of course, then the rub is, when does a site become a public accommodation? Is YouTube a public accommodation? Is Bitchute? Is FR?

9 posted on 08/17/2018 10:43:36 PM PDT by cynwoody
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Facebook... meet America Online and MySpace. Nothing is forever.


10 posted on 08/17/2018 10:47:28 PM PDT by Frapster (Bacon!)
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To: lasereye

When are some bright young conservatives going to create conservative versions of all these platforms?


11 posted on 08/17/2018 11:24:56 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: cynwoody

YT and many of the sites in question are virtual monopolies, way past the point old school libtards would have screamed at them in the past. Sounds about as good a time as any to make them play by different rules.


12 posted on 08/18/2018 12:20:06 AM PDT by jarwulf
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To: lasereye

RICO...


13 posted on 08/18/2018 12:53:41 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: lasereye

I have heard that Google has the power to smash newcomers. Is this true? Why does Congress not act against that kind of monopoly which is extremely dangerous?


14 posted on 08/18/2018 2:53:15 AM PDT by jazzlite
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Why are people asking and not doing?

Expertise can be bought.

The entry barrier is the concern. A large amount of capital needs to be acquired as the expectation will be to create a platform equal to or better than Facebook. This is not done in a garage. The uptime would be still years away and the legal ramifications by Facebook have deterred a great may. Predatory practices that have been used by the big tech companies have turned away a great deal. Then there are the practices of acquisitions. Larger companies come in and swoop up a smaller one then either sit on the tech or integrate a portion of it into their own.

The main concern would be to create a platform that Facebook can come after you. Myspace is still in use but when Facebook came out it, rats jumped ship. One would have to enter into a red ocean that is hostile to any newcomers. A deterrent to most. One would have to be able to come with new features beyond what Facebook has to make entry viable.


15 posted on 08/18/2018 3:41:56 AM PDT by zaxtres
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To: lasereye

They’re out there but getting the sheeple to move is near impossible because they’re clueless, as sheeple tend to be.

I just quit fb and made the announcement as I left. Gave the reasons. gave links to articles like this one, yet my conservative relatives, looking through their rose colored glasses, remain on facistbook. I’m all alone on https://mewe.com which is a fine replacement for fb run by an capitalist, America loving patriot.


16 posted on 08/18/2018 3:43:52 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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If you rely on someone else’s platform to express unpopular ideas, especially ideas on the right, you’re now at risk.

I know too many users of Facebook who are being censured for posting that they like Trump or his policies, myself included. The answer is not another platform, but to correct the vicious leftists running the platforms. They are denying many citizens their Constitutional rights.

Antitrust, RICO, and other statutes can be applied, do you not agree?

I suspect that their initiative is coordinated, and part of a vast left-wing conspiracy, as was the recent editorial wave against Trump. The Deep State people are coming out to mount a vast initiative to help the Democrats in November. They are winning: Alex Jones silenced; PragerU silenced; many individual Facebook users silenced...

17 posted on 08/18/2018 4:03:06 AM PDT by olezip
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I have been wondering how all the big social media became “progressive”.

Then I considered what a stranglehold “Progressives” have on traditional media.

Could the leftists in traditional media have favored leftists social media? Could it be that conservative media was ignored or downplayed by traditional media while media that was owned by “progressives” was promoted?

Microsoft was pretty neutral until Clinton attacked them with anti-trust.


18 posted on 08/18/2018 4:24:55 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: lasereye

Digital platforms are not the same as the public square... physically speaking.
Understand most of the actions we are seeing as censorship are in fact companies freaking out at liability issues, and yes I realize there is incitement occurring on the left that is not being addressed...YET. Just wait.

Let’s not forget that Jack Posobiec and Mike Cernovich created #Pizzagate, which drummed up an insane amount of crazy by shouting out that children were being held captive in the basement of Comet Ping Pong, and a gunman did indeed show up.
I realize they have since disavowed and even claimed they were the ones to debunk this myth. NOT TRUE.

Listen up... there is no basement. I used to live down the road from this strip of shops. Parking is in the back on the lower side of the shops. I know teens who worked at Comet Ping Pong... the whole thing was insane.
Could social media platforms be held responsible for the call to arms?
ABSOLUTELY

I’m predicting law suits... where these platforms will be named as co-conspirators.


19 posted on 08/18/2018 4:27:58 AM PDT by Katya
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you just posted on the site that does what you want.


20 posted on 08/18/2018 4:34:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12) Sanctuary is Sedition)
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