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'Russian election hack impossible': NSA veteran & whistleblower
RT America ^ | Nov 3, 2017 | William Binney, former NSC expert

Posted on 07/18/2018 4:54:57 PM PDT by raiderboy

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The DOJ indictment is premised on a lie. Not only is there a question of "where are the DNC servers" but a larger concern is who took the thumb drive into the DNC? The data was absolutely not transferred to WIKILEAKS by a hacker.-- Any hacker. We are being lied to for a purpose. The intended narrative is that the election was tainted and therefor illegitimate. That is bogus as Hell. This man was an NSC computer expert for over 30 years. He and this issue is being ignored. What test did Mueller run to substantiate a possible data transfer, this size, over the internet into Russia from the DNC ? Simple question. That Test was run by this NSC 30 year expert and it was "impossible".
1 posted on 07/18/2018 4:54:58 PM PDT by raiderboy
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Not to argue the point - we just don’t know at this point, not really - but isn’t “RT America” a Russian news outfit? I wouldn’t suggest putting any more stock in this than NK’s state run media.


2 posted on 07/18/2018 4:57:10 PM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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They have never been specific about how the Russians meddles. They had reported that someone in the Democratic Party released the emails. Obama stated there was no way they could alter the election.

What could be on a party’s server that would be so damaging?

Also, if this is the best 12 high ranking Russian intelligence officers can do, they are in a said state indeed.


3 posted on 07/18/2018 5:01:45 PM PDT by rey
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Why post a Russian News story as truth?


4 posted on 07/18/2018 5:03:46 PM PDT by entropy12 (1 Mil Daca is the shining object to hide 30 mil low quality LEGAL immigrants in last 25 years)
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Binney didn't say anything different than I and others said immediately following the "Crowdstrike" report release months and months ago that it was impossible for the DNC "hack" to be anything other than an inside job because of the data transfer rates going steeply downhill once the connection goes offshore and across the atlantic ocean.

I wish I'd have bookmarked it, there was an extensive thread here on FR where those of us who deal with these issues on a daily basis all collaborated together to pick apart that report, piece by piece to prove the lie that it was.

Anyone such as I who has to deal with global internet connectivity into Europe and Eastern Europe on a daily basis and all the challenges that presents for applications and data knows this. It's not rocket science, it's basic math combined with bandwidth, latency and the number of hops a packet makes between source and destination.

The entire Russian hacking narrative is one big lie in which the Democrat Party and the lying liberal lamestream media have really and truly colluded together to brainwash the American people.

Plain and simple as that.

5 posted on 07/18/2018 5:03:47 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Seth Rich was his name.

He was the Wikileaks source.

He was killed for it.


6 posted on 07/18/2018 5:04:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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What could be on a party’s server that would be so damaging?

Ask Donna Brazille about that. She knows, it's in her book.

7 posted on 07/18/2018 5:04:31 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Sorry. it is no help in the U.S.A. right use RT as a source on anything right now. I would never use this as a source when speaking to anyone on this topic. Yes, I would prefer that the moderaters block RT, but they prefer to let each of you do your own due diligence. I rejected Pravda and all its varients long ago and have no legitimate reason to change now.

From more legitimate Amerioan sources that do simply repeat and cite RT as their source for this story, it can get a fair hearing. Not otherwise.


8 posted on 07/18/2018 5:05:20 PM PDT by Wuli
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Did the Russians Hack the DNC to Help the Left Take Over the Democrats?

The Russia conspiracy theory hinges on the single creaky claim that the Democratic National Committee hacks were a Russian plot to elect Trump. The theory and all its illegitimate stepchildren, including Robert Mueller and his infinitely expanding corps of prosecutors, lives or dies by the DNC hacks.

Trying to elect Trump by releasing damaging insider information from the DNC never made any sense. The DNC was already a dysfunctional organization that was being run by the Clinton campaign. Undermining its leadership had little impact on the election, but a great deal on control of the DNC...

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2018/07/did-russians-hack-dnc-to-help-left-take.html

Great read!

9 posted on 07/18/2018 5:05:50 PM PDT by Tzaphon (EL CHIIM)
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Yes, it is and no less controlled by Putin’s group than was Pravda controlled by the Kremlin in its day.


10 posted on 07/18/2018 5:06:44 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: entropy12

I don’t understand why any FreePer does not think as you and I do about using RT as a source for anything.


11 posted on 07/18/2018 5:07:46 PM PDT by Wuli
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No probability and completely impossible.

He is correct.


12 posted on 07/18/2018 5:08:21 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: usconservative

I too am in Telecom, Security etc.

Ain’t no way it was hacked....


13 posted on 07/18/2018 5:10:00 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: Wuli

So you have no argument against the information presented?


14 posted on 07/18/2018 5:12:48 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Vendome

I seem to recall you commented on that thread and said the same thing ... :-)


15 posted on 07/18/2018 5:15:44 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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It is the absolute and clear statement of the 30 year computer expert following extensive scientific test, ignored by the leftist media. Do you challenge this experts statement and with what source information?


16 posted on 07/18/2018 5:15:51 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.ith the solar)
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To: Hugh the Scot

There are other sources that should be used. I would never support or promote RT in any way. I think in todays climate accepting RT as a source of anything hurts our Conservative brand. There is no need to use it.


17 posted on 07/18/2018 5:16:02 PM PDT by Wuli
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If you search for Bill Binney on YouTube, you'll see he's been all over the cable news networks saying the exact same thing he did on RT.

The man knows his stuff, this isn't RT/Russian propaganda.

18 posted on 07/18/2018 5:17:17 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: TheZMan

Yes RT is Russia Today. That said Bill Bonney is solid and has been saying the same thing for years


19 posted on 07/18/2018 5:17:30 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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I say let him get the story out some other way, and there are other ways within the U.S. domestic sphere. In fact I think if you do your own due diligence you will find American domestic sources that have run the story, before.


20 posted on 07/18/2018 5:18:09 PM PDT by Wuli
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