Look to the UK for their future: rationing, limits (except on generic pain meds) and ‘Pathways’ (to death, for the incurable and the non-productive elderly).
Posted on 06/11/2018 9:18:10 AM PDT by Simon Green
Canada's single-payer healthcare system forced over 1 million patients to wait for necessary medical treatments last year. That's an all-time record.
Those long wait times were more than just a nuisance; they cost patients $1.9 billion in lost wages, according to a new report by the Fraser Institute, a Vancouver-based think-tank.
Lengthy treatment delays are the norm in Canada and other single-payer nations, which ration care to keep costs down. Yet more and more Democratic leaders are pushing for a single-payer system -- and more and more voters are clamoring for one.
Indeed, three in four Americans now support a national health plan -- and a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finds that health care is the most important issue for voters in the coming election.
The leading proponent of transitioning the United States to a single-payer system is Sen. Bernie Sanders, Vermont's firebrand independent. If Sanders and his allies succeed, Americans will face the same delays and low-quality care as their neighbors to the north.
By his own admission, Sen. Sanders' "Medicare for All" bill is modeled on Canada's healthcare system. On a fact-finding trip to Canada last fall, Sanders praised the country for "guaranteeing health care to all people," noting that "there is so much to be learned" from the Canadian system.
The only thing Canadian patients are "guaranteed" is a spot on a waitlist. As the Fraser report notes, in 2017, more than 173,000 patients waited for an ophthalmology procedure. Another 91,000 lined up for some form of general surgery, while more than 40,000 waited for a urology procedure.
All told, nearly 3 percent of Canada's population was waiting for some kind of medical care at the end of last year.
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
One of the “fixes” at the VA, and Trump recently said it was fixed, is you can get an appointment in thirty days but that doesn’t mean you’ll see a doctor in thirty days.
Shortly thereafter, I flew to the Cleveland Clinic and had a week's worth of tests. I was put on an experimental drug to shrink the tumor, which worked well. Two months later, I had surgery to remove the tumor, which was successful. I'm still cancer-free.
Total cost: over $300,000. After I paid $5,000 out of pocket, insurance covered every penny. I'll take American health care, thank you very much!
Well the owner of the website does not think I am right.
I am always leery to take a stand on this issue, because it flies directly in the face of possible disaster for me, every time I dare to mention it.
So I will stop commenting, acknowledging I full-well realize I am in a distinct minority on this issue, on the website.
So I am bowing out now, please carry on with this thread.
:D
Best regards.
All the gullible hear is “free health care for all” they are clueless about what that actually means in reality and from what I can see they don’t want to know the truth, they prefer the fantasy.
When it’s “free” people abuse it and go to the doctor for every little complaint.
When it’s “free” people abuse it and go to the doctor for every little complaint.
Did you read the article?
I too have had bloody urine but they assure me its due to kidney stones and insufficient hydration.
The VA has a budget of $185 billion and has 300,000 employees in the Veterans Health Administration and they claim to have 9 million vets enrolled. The only vets I know that go there are ones who have no insurance or other place to go.
If healthcare is a right, how much of your paycheck am I entitled to?
My Canadian wife has had both forms, and of course has extended family still in Canada. One relative in Saskatchewan was on chemo for months more than necessary because the province does not have the testing equipment to see if it still needed. No remote village either, Regina.
Another 35 year old relative was told his pain was in his head, and to “go back to work” (heavy manual labor job). He moved, got another test, turns out he has a growth, and his family is riddled with lymphoma at a young age.
Mother in law waited over a year to be SCHEDULED for a knee surgery. She’s in Edmonton.
Heaven help you if you don’t like your doctor or want to seek a second opinion.
Look to the UK for their future: rationing, limits (except on generic pain meds) and ‘Pathways’ (to death, for the incurable and the non-productive elderly).
“America’s healthcare system is EXPENSIVE AS ALL GET OUT. Nobody else on the entire planet earth, pays anywhere near as much.”
Directly proportional our lawyers per capita (include lawyers-turned-judges and lawyers-turned-positions).
Lawyers-turned-politicians, that is
“how come Seattle hospitals performed over 57,000 surgeries on Canadians”
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I did not know that——do you have any links so I can use the info in a “discussion” on health care in Canada?
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And reform is a non-starter in Canada. Politicians have tried to introduce user fees, limited privatization, private clinics, ect, only to meet their doom at the voting booth.
Sadly Canadians actually still believe THEIRS is the best system on the planet - which isn’t even true among other public systems in the world.
And reform is a non-starter in Canada. Politicians have tried to introduce user fees, limited privatization, private clinics, ect, only to meet their doom at the voting booth.
Sadly Canadians actually still believe THEIRS is the best system on the planet - which isn’t even true among other public systems in the world.
Per capita, that would be like 10 million in the U.S.
Personal story as a Canadian. Our 7 year old boy has some serious behavioural problems. So we got on the list to see a pediatric psychologist. 9 months later. She tells us basically to take parenting classes and that nothing is wrong with our son. Wow, thanks for making us wait 9 months for that.
Hearing aids, Glasses and $10.00 prescriptions but you need a doctor to write them.
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