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How do civil wars happen?
Freedom Sledder .com ^ | April 4, 2018 | David Vincent Gilbert

Posted on 05/29/2018 6:53:17 AM PDT by Chickensoup

How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.

That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country?

When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win. It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war. There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election.

When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship. Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that’s the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that’s not the system that runs this country. The Democrats’ system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance

His power is unlimited. He’s a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.

A Democrat in the White House has “discretion” to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the “discretion” to reverse him. That’s how the game is played. That’s how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn’t yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve in if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club. And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.

Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That’s not a free country.

It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who won wasn’t supposed to win.

Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

David Vincent Gilbert


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I was emailed this article. I found it at freedomsleldder I think it states some pretty important things.

I do not know the author and have not found it elsewhere. How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.

That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country?

When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win. It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war. There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election.

When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship. Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that’s the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that’s not the system that runs this country. The Democrats’ system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance

His power is unlimited. He’s a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.

A Democrat in the White House has “discretion” to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the “discretion” to reverse him. That’s how the game is played. That’s how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn’t yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve in if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club. And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.

Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That’s not a free country.

It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who won wasn’t supposed to win.

Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

David Vincent Gilbert

1 posted on 05/29/2018 6:53:17 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup

I suspect the Tommy Robinson issue will show us “how”...


2 posted on 05/29/2018 7:06:57 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Chickensoup

This is really about whose country is it.

The Uniparty (both R & D) do not want US (US citizens) to reverse the demographic changes they have made to the country against the will of the citizens.

Before Trump they had US in a box voting for Amnesty candidate D or Amnesty candidate R.
We had no real choice, the country would be fundamentally transformed either way.
Trump broke through the Bush blockade at the RNC and has given US one last chance to keep our country.
Their hatred of Trump is really just an extension of their hatred of US and our freedom.


3 posted on 05/29/2018 7:13:35 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Chickensoup

I think it states some pretty important things.

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Its a very powerful article that simply states some fundamental truths about the dichotomy inherent in two completely different political views. Once accepts our election process and constraints on power. The other does not.


4 posted on 05/29/2018 7:16:06 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Excellent comments!


5 posted on 05/29/2018 7:17:24 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Chickensoup

“When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.”


You only need one side to not accept the results of an election, and you then have a civil war.

It damned near happened in 2000...and is in progress right this moment (as it has been since 2015, at least) for the 2016 election.

IOW, there is a coup going on right now. It was planned, and steps taken to implement those plans, starting WELL BEFORE the election. We are effectively already IN a civil war, though the other side is either unprepared or too afraid to get to actually combat against us...so they way lawfare with massive propaganda instead of warfare.


6 posted on 05/29/2018 7:20:34 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Chickensoup
Good writeup.

Also, consider these quotes from "The Russian Revolution" by Alan Moorehead 1958

"… this was a predatory state which the Czar and a small group of noblemen and bureaucrats ruled for their own exclusive benefit...The ruling group owned all the wealth, enjoyed all the privileges and monopolized all the political power, and it did not intend to give up any of its prerogatives. It considered the peasants to be little better than animals..."

7 posted on 05/29/2018 7:26:51 AM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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To: Ancesthntr

I agree with you. I would disagree with the article’s premise, that the issue is merely “two or more sides disagree on who runs the country”. The real issues are more primal than that - it’s stability, prosperity, freedoms or the structures of control, beliefs, gene pools and tribes. An authority that is tolerant of the particulars can be tolerated even if it is not ‘your’ authority. That has worked here in the past. The commissariat left is making that a thing of the past, however.


8 posted on 05/29/2018 7:31:52 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Ace McCain: The tumor is a rumor but the boot was a hoot.)
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To: Chickensoup

Michael Vlahos, a professor at the Naval War College and John Hopkins, has several good interviews on this on the John Batchelor Show. The podcasts can be found here:

https://audioboom.com/search/posts?q=Michael+Vlahos

He notes that at the beginning of one, people don’t realize it, thinking that things are odd but not that normalcy has become irretrievable.


9 posted on 05/29/2018 7:48:10 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Ancesthntr

This needs to be repeated and hammered home over and over.

The leftist fascists thugs refuse to accept our government. Refuse to play by the rules.

Want to foment war and dissent.

Name it, over and over.

Drive it home.

That is the way to combat this evil.


10 posted on 05/29/2018 7:50:09 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Chickensoup

Excellent article.


11 posted on 05/29/2018 7:50:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: VanShuyten

I will listen thanks.

Please keep this bumped??


12 posted on 05/29/2018 7:51:08 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Chickensoup

This article is great - but it misses a very important party.

The Media.

I retired at age 34. I have time to think about things, to work full-time to the quality upbringing of my children and the around-the-clock care of my family.

Everyone of my friends and family do not have such luxury. They must work all the time to pay their bills and get their stuff (Which, admittedly is why they couldn’t retire at age 34. I have a 7 year old cell phone, a 25 year old car and a small home).

So they have no time to truly read, to really absorb and to actually think. They turn to the Media. And now “The Media” is actually whatever news they want us to know, fed to us through Facebook, Yahoo and CNN for a double-filtering of news. If something even appears to be pro-republic both levels of these criminal syndicates will remove it from the public eye.

And they do it very, very well.

So simply stated, the news and the media at large have a very big role in keeping us angry... at each other. And it does an overwhelmingly good job at keeping the leftist Communist party full of voters.

FreeRepublic has what now... 30 years of time to build a large group of people ? Casey Neistat from Youtube did it in 1 year and he doesn’t even market himself as a political influencer. But skateboarding around NYC and taking photos brought to him a few million soft-minded youngsters who not only listened to him bash Trump, but made him an idol for it.

And Casey is one of tens of thousands of “influencers” who follow the same formula. Get a few million young people who like video games together, then switch the narrative after they are brought into a trance of visual candy.

We simply don’t do that. And we need to learn how. Thoughout the years there have been people here who wanted to create a funny pro-right entertainment program - even a podcast or something but we haven’t actually done it. This is because we don’t allow the news to anger us enough to do it.

And if you think you’re “perfectly angry” at the way things are, you aren’t. We aren’t. The left is foaming at the mouth thinking that Trump is the actual harbinger of doom. Like a hellspawn of biblical proportions. These are people who are so angry that they ... and follow me on this one..

This is important.

If you think you are so angry at the way things are run, our enemy is so angry about BABIES that they kill them in the millions. They laugh about it. They wear funny costumes and celebrate it. How angry do you have to be to where you get to the point of hating a baby so much that you rejoice in it’s death ?

We can’t even get close to the hate that the left harbors. And they harbor that hate because of the media’s influence on them. They are hypnotized and then fed suggestion from every corner of their world. From their cups of coffee in the morning, to their daytime TV (The View is on every television in every doctor’s office) to their leisure time on the internet to being injected between every online interaction with their friends.

They are bathed in hatred. And they have been soaking for years.

If you, like I have wondered why we’re not angry enough to fight, this is why. They are far, far more angry. They kill innocent children to feel good. That’s hatred. That’s anger.


13 posted on 05/29/2018 8:06:29 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Chickensoup

BTTT


14 posted on 05/29/2018 8:06:55 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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To: Psalm 144

Our enemy kills innocent children.

You are right, this isn’t about “disagreeing” this is a fight against the most satanic evil we have ever faced.


15 posted on 05/29/2018 8:07:51 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Chickensoup
when the soapbox and the ballot box fail...
16 posted on 05/29/2018 8:13:30 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

History shows us Commies want ALL opposition (US) DEAD.

Trump represents US. After taking down President Trump, they will do to us what they have done to all who oppose them. Millions died in Soviet Russia, Red China, and many other places throughout the world.

In England, the real British people are awakening, but they have a long bloody road to haul if they want their country back. The last time Tommy Robinson was jailed, they put him right in to a predominantly muslim-populated cell, knowing full well his life would be at risk.

When confronted with the reality that now jailed again, he would probably die at muslim hands, the Judge SMILED and said: “He knew what he was getting himself into.”

Another Brit who laid a piece of bacon on the door knob of a mosque was also sentenced to a muslim-populated jail, where the animals murdered him.

This is exactly what is planned for us here in the U.S.
History shows us that those who want liberty will have to fight for it.


17 posted on 05/29/2018 8:34:46 AM PDT by Kalamata (bibleresearchtools.com)
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To: Chickensoup

Sounds about right. We are in it to win it. The only difference between this one and the last one is the shooting has started yet in this one.

Both civil wars were/are about power and who controls it.

I’ve said it before, assuming we win, there will be no place in America for leftists. We are as incompatible as our Constitution and Sharia Law.


18 posted on 05/29/2018 8:41:50 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Moral Equivalent of the Plague - It Destroys Anyone it Infects)
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To: Chickensoup

Why did you post the whole article again in your first comment?

That’s tedious.


19 posted on 05/29/2018 9:08:42 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

because it then shows in both articles and comments


20 posted on 05/29/2018 9:43:20 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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