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EMP Commission warns ‘blackout’ of electricity, food, water to last ‘year or longer,’ (TR)
Washington Examiner ^ | May 9, 2018 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 05/14/2018 8:37:04 AM PDT by Perseverando

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To: palmer

What happens to all of the solar panels and wind towers?


61 posted on 05/14/2018 11:42:04 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: GRRRRR; metmom

“Those with proper prepping will have arms, food and water to survive at least three months. They will have to fight off the city folk for resources.”

I love my neighbors. And it was totally by accident that we ended up moving to a place where the neighbors were all prepared. I mean, we didn’t realize it at the time. We live on a short holler, that ends in the Cherokee national Forest. The neighbor at the very front of the road talk to me about how we could drop trees to stop anyone from coming in. And from his house he can see the road and take out anyone coming up. He also said he is keeping his black Angus herd for food and to barter, although he is retired and would rather give up all the work they entail. The guy at the very end of the holler has volunteered to be the armory for the road. He has enough ammunition to supply all of us, he says. However I don’t think that’s necessary since everyone else has their own supply. Everyone has Gardens. Most are from around here so they have the knowledge from their grandfathers and great-grandfathers. There are numerous Wells about, and people take power outages in stride.

I really had no idea we were moving into an area with people with the same mindset as us. It’s kind a hard when you’re looking at houses to go around and ask the neighbors about that sort of thing. Plus we didn’t want to tip our hand at what we were doing. And we really haven’t, we just kinda nod our head with these people but we don’t say too much. I don’t know if that makes them nervous about us or not, But they act like we fit in OK.


62 posted on 05/14/2018 11:45:14 AM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: kaktuskid

The solar panels are vulnerable to higher frequency EMP, but the effects are speculative mainly because nobody has really tested high frequency EMP-producing nuclear weapons. The turbines are primitive and should be resilient to most types of EMP. But I think solar would be fairly resilient too, and fine under a solar or lower frequency nuclear scenario.


63 posted on 05/14/2018 11:51:27 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer
That report is dated 2008.
Surely, some additional precautionary safe warehousing and protection of essential components have taken place since then.

On not.
Obungo was president and no one really knows where or how he blew 16 $trillion...

64 posted on 05/14/2018 12:02:16 PM PDT by publius911
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To: metmom
FORTUNATELY, he had a coal stove and a good supply of coal.

WHere in the world would could a southerner get ahold of that!? I'd love to have one.

65 posted on 05/14/2018 12:07:26 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
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To: CottonBall

Actually, he moved from that place.

But the dream house, now.

That’s a different story.

While mr. mm is not a prepper or really prepper inclined, after that little episode, even he agrees with the basics of having an alternate course of heat and something for water.

Besides, there’s NOTHING that can beat wood stoves for steady heat and lots of atmosphere.

We had a wood stove in our old house that we supplemented with and sometimes depended on when the furnace went out and the part didn’t come in as promised.

I ws very surprised at how it changed the atmosphere in the house. The kids were much calmer in the living room when the wood stove was going. Not that they were so bad, but it’s a very peaceful thing.


66 posted on 05/14/2018 12:07:55 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: CottonBall

I hope we get prepper neighbors but I don’t want to announce that we’re ready should the zombie apocalypse happen.

I’ll just surreptitiously plant nut trees and apple and cherry trees and raspberry bushes, and do my usual garden.


67 posted on 05/14/2018 12:12:05 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: publius911

I think that 2008 report is what they are talking about in the article with some minor updates. The physics is unchanged. The nuclear EMP is still just as difficult to do effectively. The warehousing of parts is somewhat of a red herring. It is much easier and cheaper to protect transformers than to replace them. I don’t know how much protection has been done in the last 10 years, but it’s neither rocket science nor very expensive.


68 posted on 05/14/2018 12:12:56 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Kartographer

Yep, we have a pretty exposed system of uninsulated above-ground wires and cyclone-fenced substations. Mainly unhardened, open to many forms of assault, from nature or men.

We’re able to go for a couple months, but even that takes planning, rotation, etc. Having propane (tank kept > 40%) heat + gas log, well & generator, and being very near game & fish would help some.


69 posted on 05/14/2018 12:14:02 PM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: DCBryan1

I was thinking the same thing.

One guy writes a book and the whole country goes nutty.

Yes...it could be a local issue. No, no one is going to detonate a nuclear bomb above our heads any time soon.

Yes...a Solar flare could do us in. But, not at this point in the solar cycle. Maybe in 20 years. Not now.


70 posted on 05/14/2018 12:18:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Hawthorn

We are not deniers. Most of us have done some research.

Carrington event? Sure.

Full scale nuclear war? With what former nuclear power is that going to take place against?


71 posted on 05/14/2018 12:19:41 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: palmer

I’m not going to go back and forth. Deny all you care to.

Logics and logistics dictate that it would be extremely serious and even deadly for many people.


72 posted on 05/14/2018 12:39:55 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: palmer

A team of snipers could disable a portion of the grid by shooting out the largest transformers.

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You think those huge transformers would be replaced in a few hours?


73 posted on 05/14/2018 12:41:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: metmom

I agree, you can’t beat that ambience. Building the fire, lighting the match, watching it take hold, - it makes just flipping a switch seem so boring.


74 posted on 05/14/2018 12:49:43 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: metmom

Yeah, we were just going to fly under the radar as well. Planting trees and doing gardening would fit in around here. As would practicing shooting. But the neighbors just brought all this stuff up on their own. The one at the beginning of the holler, they are very religious. He is preparing for the end times. I’m glad they’re so open about it because otherwise I wouldn’t know what they were thinking. But we tend to say a lot less, and they have no idea about all the food storage in my basement. But I will be happy to barter some of my homemade bread and beans for some of his beef!


75 posted on 05/14/2018 12:52:49 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: CottonBall

The mentality of the upland south being such as it is, it’s never good to be showy even if you can well afford it. Don’t get above yer raisin’ and all that. Low key is the key.


76 posted on 05/14/2018 12:54:48 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Perseverando

A Year? try decades. These Millennials won’t know how to function with out Tech equipment. They are so stupid about survival they’d have no stock pile of food, water, heirloom seeds, or know how to prep Faraday cages for some electronics. Much less know how to protect themselves from gangs that will take over.


77 posted on 05/14/2018 12:55:27 PM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: CottonBall

Flowers are going to be putting on a show right along about now into June up on the Parkway too, by the way. Have you made it for that yet?


78 posted on 05/14/2018 12:58:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I’m honestly afraid my niece would just stop eating, curl up in a ball and die without her iPhone and social media. It’s really strange how it’s rewiring their brains, I dislike it intensely even though I’m online a fair amount myself. I can walk away though, know a world without it She doesn’t.


79 posted on 05/14/2018 1:00:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Hawthorn
"EMP-deniers"
What kind of crap is that?

Do you have any first-hand experience with EMP effects? Global warming? AIDS? The Holocaust?

Everyone who has a different opinion to yours is a DENIER?

You're apparently an imbecile.

80 posted on 05/14/2018 1:52:02 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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