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Sex and Shame: What Incels and Jihadists Have in Common
The New York Times ^ | April 30, 2018 | Simon Cottee

Posted on 05/01/2018 4:26:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As an instrument for delivering publicity, terrorism clearly works. Or at least it did last week, when the hitherto obscure term “incel” went viral after Alek Minassian drove a truck into a crowd of pedestrians in downtown Toronto. Mr. Minassian, just before carrying out his attack, wrote a post on Facebook in which he proclaimed the arrival of an “incel rebellion.” Standing for “involuntarily celibate,” the term is used as a badge of honor among a fringe online subculture of misogynists who say they hate women for depriving them of sex. So now we know.

Were it not for that post, speculation about Mr. Minassian’s attack would have focused on its connection to the Islamic State. It certainly looked like an Islamic State attack: The terrorist group has been aggressively inciting its followers to kill Western civilians with motor vehicles, and since then there have been many such attacks. Mr. Minassian cannot have been oblivious to these horrific rampages and the tremendous publicity that they attracted. This was an Islamic State-inspired attack minus the Islamic State ideology.

Mr. Minassian is obviously a deeply troubled individual. And mass murder is driven by a variety of psychological factors. But much of Mr. Minassian’s trouble seems to have been fueled or exacerbated by the frustration and shame that accompanied his lack of sexual contact with women. This would have made him feel unfulfilled and indignant, and also weak and unmanly. The sense of shame from not being able to perform a culturally approved sex role may be a key to understanding his murderous rage. It may also be another thread connecting him to other violent actors whose ideology is different from his own, yet whose actions are similar. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alekminassian; incels; jihadists; sex; shame

1 posted on 05/01/2018 4:26:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“connecting him to other violent actors whose ideology is different from his”

Ah, so this silly article has a point: protect Muslims.


2 posted on 05/01/2018 4:32:49 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Incel, as in a cell in Excel?


3 posted on 05/01/2018 4:33:02 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This story is too dumb to be on this website.


4 posted on 05/01/2018 4:42:04 PM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Mr. Minassian didn't view women as humans. Well, Mr. Minassian is soon going to learn the hard way what it's like to be thought of as a sex object for the pleasure of others.
 
5 posted on 05/01/2018 4:42:39 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The idea that you are OWED sexual favors is about as narcissistic as you can get.


6 posted on 05/01/2018 4:58:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Canada needs back ground checks on people buying gas.


7 posted on 05/01/2018 4:58:35 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvete)
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8 posted on 05/01/2018 5:00:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Jonty30
Incel, as in a cell in Excel?

Involuntary Celibate. Guys who can't get laid and aren't happy about it.

Depending on how you look at it, they're either losers worthy of mockery or the predictable result of a larger social shift that has devalued and emasculated men, leaving them angry and confused about their place in society.

Lots of press lately about "Incels" including an article I posted the other day from a lefty demanding speech codes to combat their message.

Can the radicalization of ‘incels’ be stopped?

9 posted on 05/01/2018 5:08:05 PM PDT by Drew68
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I can’t defend what the guy did, but I think I understand how he got that way. Young men are often very frustrated and impatient when things don’t go their way. Our hypersexualized society, brought to us by the leftist media, has the “incels” believing that they are unfairly left out of a scene where hooking up is the norm. In an earlier era they would not have felt so out of place, because society was not telegraphing these values. They also would not have been able to form a huge community which reinforces their worst impulses. I have taken the time to read their message boards, and it is really sad and alarming. They are dug in, and they are mad. There will be more of these events in the future.


10 posted on 05/01/2018 5:09:40 PM PDT by beef
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The Toronto suspect apparently posted about an 'incel rebellion.' Here's what that means (4/25)
11 posted on 05/01/2018 5:32:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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I have also read their message boards. They are scary people. Sad, but scary. They seem like powderkegs, and I see no mystery why all the women reject them.

One of the classic stereotypes of women today is the fat, ugly, crazy feminist — guys, you do NOT want to go out with her.
The Incels are the male version of that — ladies, you do NOT want to go out with them.


12 posted on 05/01/2018 5:37:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Neither Alek Mennassian or Eliot Rodgers were actually physically unattractive or ugly.

Their problems were entirely inside their heads.


13 posted on 05/01/2018 6:00:48 PM PDT by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And then along came sex-bots...


14 posted on 05/01/2018 6:06:01 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Drew68

It would certainly explain leftists.


15 posted on 05/01/2018 6:09:37 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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I think most of these guys have been mired in a kind of psychological quicksand most of their lives. The harder they struggled, the worse it got. They became incels when they finally gave up. They needed help starting many, many years go and of course they never got any. Given the current man-hating, especially white man-hating, culture, it is doubtful they ever will. These men will be going it alone from here on in, like it or not.

I remember an episode of MASH where Radar brought home a Korean woman with a baby, who he told everyone was his. It was, of course, eventually discovered by blood types that it could not be his. He confided to Haweye that he had never been with a woman and he just wanted everyone to think he was a normal guy but now everyone thinks he is even more of a loser. Hawkeye told him that it was OK, he was OK, and that if he just kept being the nice guy he was, eventually someone would come along and it would happen. This is the kind of input boys don't get anymore, but which they really, really, desperately need. They would not allow this sort of thing to happen to girls. Who says there isn't a war on boys?

16 posted on 05/01/2018 7:17:26 PM PDT by beef
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The idea that you are OWED sexual favors is about as narcissistic as you can get.

Not any more narcissistic than believing that you are OWED the fruits of the labor of others.

Regards,

17 posted on 05/01/2018 9:10:46 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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