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Why Xi’s lifting of term limits is a good thing
Washington Post ^ | April 2, 2018 | Eric X. Li

Posted on 04/03/2018 10:00:52 AM PDT by C19fan

Western media and the Chinese chattering classes have been in an uproar since China’s National People’s Congress approved constitutional changes that included lifting the two-term presidential limit. China approves “president for life,” proclaimed Western media.

But this misinterprets the nature of the development. And the world appears to be overlooking consequential political reforms taking place in China that will impact our collective future for the better.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicom; china; dictatorforlife; fakenews; hsichinping; prodictatorarticle; redchina; washingtoncompost; xijinping
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To: Olog-hai

China like Russia has been run by autocratic rulers and civil society is only gradually emerging in those countries.

In Xi’s youth, China had the chaotic and destructive Cultural Revolution. The anarchy and assault on Chinese values and governing institutions left a lasting impression on many of the current elite.

As a result, they favor stability over freedom. Its a Chinese version of Catch-22 you must have a strong government, rule of law and free markets in place before you can have democracy.

In today’s China, the latter takes a back seat to the former in terms of national development.


21 posted on 04/03/2018 11:34:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
They actually meet the classical definition of “Fascist”:
capitalist (or somewhat so) economy combined with single party rule.

It always amazes me how on FB and elsewhere ignoramuses get ‘Fascism’ and ‘National Socialism” mixed up.

Fascism, in economic terms actually works pretty well sometimes- Mussolini revitalized Italy's economy and for the first few years Germany did OK in many respects; markets like stability in the political sense...

22 posted on 04/03/2018 11:35:40 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

(posted too soon, a continuation).
“National Socialism”, by the definition of its founders, has race at its very core, but uses fascistic means - single party rule but capitalist (if corrupt and only semi free) economics but the economics is only a means to a racial end.

I’m going with the definitions that the founders, Mussolini and Drexler/Eckart respectively, used,


23 posted on 04/03/2018 11:40:31 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: All

Somewhere in Seattle a plutocrat is rubbing his hands together murmuring ‘President for life Bezos”.


24 posted on 04/03/2018 11:41:43 AM PDT by pluvmantelo ( I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning l)
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To: Olog-hai

Xi dynasty?


25 posted on 04/03/2018 11:45:13 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: C19fan

I’m no fan of the Chinese Communist Party. Certainly the US Constitution is theoretically better than the Constitution of the Chinese Communist Party.

However, the Chinese ruling elite (after Mao croaked) compare favorably with the corrupt US ruling elite, its craptastic US Congress, its imperial US president’s phone and pen (regardless of party), and its US national security state that is doing everything possible to keep up the water levels in the swamp.

At least the ChiComs since Mao have the good sense not to squander trillions on nation-building third-world Muslim sh**holes and the good sense not to encourage those who engender racial, ethnic, and gender strife, and the good sense not to admit immigrants who have no desire to integrate in their way of life. They also haven’t run up over twenty trillion in deficits since Mao croaked.

It’s not like the Chinese ever had a solid tradition of individual liberty to squander in the first place. This is precisely what the ruling elite in the US have done. For this reason, the Chinese ruling elite are more popular with ordinary Chinese people (excluding Tibetan Buddhist and Xinjiang Muslim extremists, of course) than the US ruling elite are among ordinary Americans.


26 posted on 04/03/2018 12:07:58 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: goldstategop

Old tyrants’ formula of creating a problem and imposing a solution. Does not mean that liberty will not work.


27 posted on 04/03/2018 1:14:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: RedStateRocker

There is nothing non-socialistic about national socialist/fascist economics; it actually follows the Marxist formula of government takeove “by degree”.


28 posted on 04/03/2018 1:19:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

They are different, but not distinct. Fascism is entirely about combining single party political rule with a (somewhat) free market economy; sorry the definition was clear and accurate when Mussolini wrote the definition, the fact that dimwit ‘academics’ got them conflated decades later to where they are used interchangeably now just means that the people using them interchangeably should not be taken seriously. Words (definitions) have meaning, and not whatever ones we simply decide to give them at our whim.

Fascism existed before ‘National Socialism’. Fascism also utilizes the free market to create and (somewhat) distribute wealth. It’s quite possible for a capitalist to be a fascist, too. ‘National Socialism’ is a racial philosophy that initially used the fascist single party/capitalist model (since it worked for both economic resuscitation and political control) but quickly revealed it’s truly socialistic nature, but in either case was all about race, with economics being much less important.

it does no good to confuse them.

Hell, most people think Hitler invented National Socialism.

So, technically, you are incorrect by any definition except the ones propagated by liberal academia, no point in playing their game.

Anyway, no supporter of either, but I merely find it interesting that China is actually using the Fascist model according to the definition of Mussolini.


29 posted on 04/03/2018 1:36:19 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: MrEdd

You’re right on that MrEdd.

Pretty much the same for the NYTimes and LATimes.


30 posted on 04/03/2018 2:03:27 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: RedStateRocker
Well, I don’t know where you read the definition of fascism, but Benito ’s own words make it sound exactly like Marxism.
“Italy is not a capitalist country according to the meaning now conventionally assigned to that term.” — 1935

“When the war is over, in the world’s social revolution that will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth’s riches, due account must be kept of the sacrifices and of the discipline maintained by the Italian workers.” — 1941
Plainly Marxist in outlook.
31 posted on 04/03/2018 2:45:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ― Benito Mussolini “State ownership! It leads only to absurd and monstrous conclusions; state ownership means state monopoly, concentrated in the hands of one party and its adherents, and that state brings only ruin and bankruptcy to all.” ― Benito Mussolini “Socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail.” ― Benito Mussolini “I do not intend to defend capitalism or capitalists. They, like everything human, have their defects. I only say their possibilities of usefulness are not ended. Capitalism has borne the monstrous burden of the war and today still has the strength to shoulder the burdens of peace. ... It is not simply and solely an accumulation of wealth, it is an elaboration, a selection, a co-ordination of values which is the work of centuries. ... Many think, and I myself am one of them, that capitalism is scarcely at the beginning of its story.” ― Benito Mussolini https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/221166.Benito_Mussolini
32 posted on 04/03/2018 2:56:49 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: Olog-hai

arrrg- sorry for the formatting error.


33 posted on 04/03/2018 2:57:41 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Mussolini was all over the place with his rhetoric, but always went back to his communist roots, speaking particularly on themes of “social justice” and wealth redistribution. As the Communist Manifesto said, “These measures will, of course, be different in different countries”, so Benito adjusted his measures to fit his own country.


34 posted on 04/03/2018 4:27:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Good points, well made.


35 posted on 04/03/2018 5:29:06 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: C19fan

This is just the latest China dynasty - the start of the Xi dynasty. Chinese are used to it, they’ve had over 2 thousand years of it.


36 posted on 04/03/2018 11:14:47 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Skepolitic

“... US ruling elite, its craptastic US Congress”

When I hear ‘Republicans’ like Jeb or McCain shooting their mouths about ‘one party states’ ‘stealing from their own (put any country) people” abroad it cracks me up each time.


37 posted on 04/04/2018 6:12:33 AM PDT by NorseViking
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