Posted on 02/23/2018 10:57:30 AM PST by rogerantone1
Gun Deaths: It's become commonplace to hear after a U.S. shooting tragedy that, when it comes to guns, America is just more violent than other countries, especially those in Europe, where many countries have stiff gun-control laws. It's a progressive shibboleth, but even some conservatives agree. The only problem is, it's not true.
Yes, America does have a lot of gun violence. But more than other countries, especially in Europe?
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Khan of London says we have to accept these things, they are common occurrences in cities throughout the muslim mideast.
A week later some facts start to trickle out.
Great read. Thank you!
I’m not a big fan of these arguments by actuarial table. They down play the real societal and moral impact of individual events.
The left rolls out similar arguments after every Islamic terror attack. “San Bernardino was no big deal because there are more deaths by bee stings”, “You’re more likely to drown in a bucket than be killed by a Muslim immigrant”, etc.
Using statistics one could argue (absurdly) that in a country of 300 million, 9-11 was no big deal, same with Pearl Harbor. Far more people died from other causes, etc etc.
They want our guns, not for safety, but for lifetime power and riches,nothing more, nothing less...
I have heard that argument.
It is a bit different that Islamists have declared war on us, and, in fact, have been at war with Christendom for their entire existence.
The only time they have refrained from attacking us is when forced to do so by military defeat.
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I would encourage everyone who has not viewed it, to watch this Bill Whittle video on America’s place in the world when it comes to gun violence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
The most interesting part of it is that when you remove the sorry statistics from the largest (RAT or Black RAT-run cities), we become almost the safest place to live when it comes to guns.
Powerful remarks, and no doubt heartfelt. But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn't even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings.So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.
That's not all. There were also 27% more casualties from 2009 to 2015 per mass shooting incident in the European Union than in the U.S.
"There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom."
"But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."
Yes, the U.S. rate is still high, and nothing to be proud of. But it's not the highest in the developed world. Not by a long shot.
“I’m not a big fan of these arguments by actuarial table. They down play the real societal and moral impact of individual events....”
Thank you!
You have expressed a sense I have had when hearing the magnifying and downplaying of these tragedies time and time again, though could not put my finger on what the irritating part of the argument was.
Indeed the breakdown of the family, increase in violence promoting video games, violence promoting movies, violence promoting music, less religion, more "virtual reality world" (computers/internet/smart phones), etc., etc., etc. are all a part of the problem in our society (as compared to say...50 years ago).
However, the point of the article is to put actual data / facts on the table to counter those like Barry, Reid, media, hollywood and so forth that try to say we have the highest rate of gun mass violence in the civilized world.
It's just not true, the facts speak for themselves. There are a lot of ignoramus's out there who are framing the debate.
Guns happen to be the current topic. These same people will tell you we are the worst at everything.
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I try and try to pound this into my fellow Canadian facebook friends - hopefully having some success. Told them that the US experiences something like 33,000 falling deaths each year, about 3 times that of guns. But it is hard to look past the pictures of dead kids to see the statistics.
Kahn has some ‘splainin’ to do:
“Then comes the U.S., at No. 11...the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany’s and five times the U.K.’s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher.”
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