Posted on 01/24/2018 2:53:16 AM PST by SMGFan
Where are the 50,000 important text messages between FBI lovers Lisa Page and Peter Strzok? Blaming Samsung!
10:54 PM - 23 Jan 2018
What is the basis for even knowing that there might have once been 50,000 text messages just between 2 people?
It really seems like they were once observed, counted, examined and cataloged.
What if the IG already has them (likely) and later they were deleted.
More investigation, Who did the deleting? Why were they deleted?
What if NSA has a copy? (very likely)
There will need to be some serious strategies in play, and not like giving key players immunity. Pass the popcorn.
IIRC, TPTB already HAVE 50,000 texts between Strzok and Page. (When did they work?). What are missing are texts - quantity unknown - over a five-month time span.
Anyone ‘in the business’ knows the deletion or otherwise loss of text messages has NOTHING to do with the mobile endpoint.
world’s worst scapegoat to point the finger at Samsung.
Blaming this on Samsung is ridiculous. I have the same model phone and have been through all of the upgrades. NONE of my texts for the period are missing. You have to physically delete texts for them to be gone.
I think that is the total texts number for the FBI. So someone “lost” all of the Samsung device texts.
There are 50,000 total texts - they have those. Those aren’t missing.
Explanations suggest these texts are automatically backed up to FBI servers. Assuming this is SOP for FBI issued phones.
Except for the messages from Dec 2016 > May 2017 - those =apparently= didn’t get backed up and are currently considered “missing.”
These messages represent the mystery number - we don’t know how many.
DOJ is blaming a tech glitch
The Department wants to bring to your attention that the FBIs technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page from December 14, 2016 to approximately May 17, 2017, Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs Stephen Boyd wrote to Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wis.
The FBI has informed [the Department of Justice] that many FBI-provided Samsung 5 mobile devices did not capture or store text messages due to misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBIs collection capabilities.
You have an FBI issued Samsung phone that is connected to the FBI system that archives these texts?
Good catch
I haven’t seen any suggestion of “deleted” - just “missing.”
The messages might still exist on the devices. The messages might still exist within the cell service. (not sure how these gov’t issued phones interact with domestic networks)
The only place we know the messages are missing from is the FBI’s backup.
Not sure they are blaming Samsung so much as they are the idea that the phones were upgraded somehow that made them incompatible with the FBI text archive system.
They show:
Mueller gave U to NK/Iran/Russia
Mueller & McCabe prevented the Benghazi rescue.
Mueller & the rest planned to murder President Trump in conspiracy.
Mueller & the rest protected raping of children and selling of organs.
Mueller is using his favorite strategy. When information comes out about the swamps activities, he does something to grab headlines.
the messages are not stored on the device, unless the user takes overt action to do so.
the messages are ALL handled by the app(s) on the device and the server(s) in the cloud.
presuming these are Agency issued devices, they are either legacy BlackBerry (doubtful) or IOS or Samsung managed by Aiwatch EMM software.
three types of messaging on iOS- Imessage, SMS/MMS from the carrier, or a CJIS compliant secure messaging App. Samsung does not have a messaging app analogous to imessage.
carriers usually only retain the content of messages for about 30 days and then it’s deleted.
the CJIS secure apps retain messages until a human deletes ALL the copies.
this is simply obstruction of justice, and it’s criminal.
FBI uses S5 and S7 Samsung phones. The phones passwords can be reset for the central server software from their data centers. The messages reside on the and in the data center. The support center can send a signal to the phone to wipe it out if the agent report the phone missing. The messege traffice also resides on the data center server.
PS There is more than one data center and one is a backup for the other.
Here’s what I can’t grasp - I can only assume the agents know these phones are archiving everything they do. So - the day they decide to do something “off the table”...why not go to Wal-Mart and buy a cheap phone? Wouldn’t the FIRST thing you do be - create an off the record means of communication?...vs - hoping you don’t get caught?
The explanation Gov’t ineptitude is too easy to believe, I guess.
You would be surprised what teenagers can do!
They (agents) would be aware that all carrier-grade SMS/MMS is subject to ‘interception’ and inspection, technically, if not entirely legally. By CPNI law the carriers DO NOT see/inspect your SMS/MMS message content. (can’t speak for the Agency or a component thereof ) Those messages DO have 128 bit encryption, so they are marginally secure from private party decryption. CJIS messaging is 256 bit AES encrypted/ FIPS 140-II compliant - arguably highly secure ... unless you have the copies and the decryption keys.
I have no idea *IF* the NSA or other agency captures and sniffs them all. But technically it’s possible.
Agency iPhones *might* have iMessage disabled by AirWatch.
At any rate - no messages are safe, technically, from someone who has a copy, the keys, and expansive CPU time.
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