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America's Role in El Salvador's Deterioration(Hurl Alert)
The Atlantic ^ | 20th January 2018 | RAYMOND BONNER

Posted on 01/20/2018 3:00:33 PM PST by Ennis85

When Donald Trump said this month he would end temporary protected status for almost 200,000 Salvadorans, the number of immigrants standing to lose protections under this president approached the 1 million mark. This includes people, like those from El Salvador, that now stand to be deported to countries where their lives could be in danger. El Salvador has one of the world’s highest homicide rates—due in no small part to the policies of the country now trying to expel them.

Trump promised to end the protected status granted to Salvadorans in 2001 following a devastating earthquake. Then, a few days later, during a White House meeting on immigration policy, the president characterized places like El Salvador, along with Haiti, as “shithole” (or perhaps “shithouse”) countries. Unwilling to explicitly criticize the president for his intemperate remarks, Senator Marco Rubio expressed pity for the poor nation: “[T]he people of El Salvador and Haiti have suffered as the result of bad leaders, rampant crime and natural disasters.” Rubio omitted to note that one of the biggest disasters to befall El Salvador—one that created hundreds of thousands of refugees even before the post-earthquake wave—was man-made, with the United States, not nature, being a major force.

It was a civil war of the 1980s, one that pitted leftist revolutionaries against the alliance of countries, oligarchs, and generals that had ruled the country for decades—with U.S. support—keeping peasants illiterate and impoverished. It was a bloody, brutal, and dirty war. More than 75,000 Salvadorans were killed in the fighting, most of them victims of the military and its death squads. Peasants were shot en masse, often while trying to flee. Student and union leaders had their thumbs tied behind their backs before being shot in the head, their bodies left on roadsides as a warning to others.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: civilwar; elsalvador; fmln; reagan
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I've already torn into this guy on that article page.

'"US-fueled"

This guy seems to have a selective memory when it comes to the Civil war in El Salvador. He lays the blame for what happened in that country solely on the US and not once is mentioned the role that both Cuba and Sandinista Nicaragua played in that country during the same time. Like the fact that they were the ones who instigated the civil war in the first place.

Going back to 1980, prior to that year the El Salvador had a reformist coup setting the path for democratic reform and anti-government guerrillas were nothing more than a bunch of ineffective groups that numbered in the hundreds and who often fought with each other. As well as that their activities were limited primarily to occasional assassinations, bombings and to get funds for themselves would engage in bank robberies and kidnappings. Then came the Sandinista victory in Nicaragua in 1979 and a year later (when the civil war started) they along with Cuba would unify the communist groups in El Salvador to form the FMLN, supplied them with modern arms(with the help of communist Vietnam), equipment and training as well as a base of operations in Nicaragua in order for them to overthrow the Government of El Salvador(this constitutes as an armed attack by another nation in international law). That was when the violence would spiral out of control, resulting in 1980 as its most violent year(there was no US military aid at this time) and not only that there was the FMLN's campaign of economic sabotage which by 1985 resulted in war damages of over one billion dollars.

This was the reason why the US supported El Salvador at that time.

Yes there were right wing death squads that did a lot of killing also, but the fact of the matter is the violence in that country would never have gotten as bad as it did without the involvement of Cuba and Nicaragua.

As for claims the US backed death squads and a right wing death squad government in that country, Not only did Reagan do no such thing but he supported its transition to democracy. Such as professionalising their armed forces(which included improving human rights practices) so that they could effectively combat the FMLN and bring the civilian populace to their side and protect polling booths which came under attack by the communist guerrillas who weren't exactly keen on the democratic process, threatening aid suspensions to halt right wing death squads attacks, as well as backing the Christian Democrats against the far right ARENA party. Even going as far as covertly sending $1,000,000 to Jose Duarte's presidential campaign.'

1 posted on 01/20/2018 3:00:34 PM PST by Ennis85
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To: Ennis85
***WARNING***

Don’t believe these Lying Leftist Media outlets like the Atlantic. They are presumed to be lying and we should presume what they publish is a lie. The presumption can only be rebutted with the outlet providing clear and convincing evidence they are not lying.

2 posted on 01/20/2018 3:03:05 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Ennis85

Wow, El Salvador sounds like quite a shithole.


3 posted on 01/20/2018 3:03:20 PM PST by babble-on
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To: Ennis85

Why can’t H->!, Pelosi and Schmuckie and the UN fix El Salvador?


4 posted on 01/20/2018 3:03:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ennis85

“...More than 75,000 Salvadorans were killed in the fighting, most of them victims of the military and its death squads...”

Wrong! Most were killed by the FMLN and its bloodthirsty Communists.

What sort of people did the FMLN kill? People like Francisco Peccorini who was 72 years old and working to expose Leftist lies at the National University. People like the young poet and Engineer Gabriel Payes. People like the elderly father of Colonel Escuniga who grew up so poor he never had shoes before young adulthood. The list is endless.

What sort of people were killed by the much maligned Policia de Hacienda? Communists who attacked.

I was there.


5 posted on 01/20/2018 3:10:04 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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But just think.

If we hadn’t fought the Communists in El Salvador, it would be a workers paradise today.

Like. Venezuela.


6 posted on 01/20/2018 3:21:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Send all these aliens (apparently somehow still suffering from trembles of 17 years ago) back to their crappy country. Supposedly, they are making the USA better somehow. If that is true, they must hate their home country. Send them back to make that sh**-hole better. Get OUT!


7 posted on 01/20/2018 3:23:47 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Ennis85

Which of course is the reason they are flooding our country {SAR}


8 posted on 01/20/2018 3:26:50 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: Ennis85

The way Liberals carry on, you would think “Mexico, ElSalvador, etc” was Spanish for “Auschwitz”

Hat tip to a Freeper. I remember the line, not who wrote it.


9 posted on 01/20/2018 3:28:35 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Ennis85

Contra-fiction...


10 posted on 01/20/2018 3:30:33 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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What they really mean is “Its wrong to send these hardened criminals back to El Salvador.”


11 posted on 01/20/2018 3:37:13 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Ennis85

Can we do an article on The Atlantic’s Role in Journalism’s Deterioration?


12 posted on 01/20/2018 3:57:44 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Ennis85

Another lying, blame-everything-on-the-United-States, leftist trying to rewrite history and make excuses for the horrible government of a sh!thole country.


13 posted on 01/20/2018 4:10:03 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Ennis85

What you wrote and what the article wrote are 2 completely different opinions on the exact same topic.
It just goes to show how slanted the media truly truly is.
I hope everybody reads the article and then your response.
Good job.


14 posted on 01/20/2018 4:13:37 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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To: Ennis85

I guess it’s only fair that we give them our country.........../s


15 posted on 01/20/2018 4:13:57 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Ennis85

My favorite paragraph in their article was
The U.S.-fueled war drove tens of thousands of Salvadorans to flee the violence for safety in the United States. In the mid-90s, Clinton allowed their “temporary protected status” to expire. This decision contributed to the gang violence that marks El Salvador today—not long ago, when a day passed without a murder, it was banner news. Thousands of the refugees sent back were young men, who had either deserted from the army or the guerrillas during the war. And when they got back to El Salvador, with little beyond their fighting skills, they formed the nucleus of the gangs.

I guess we Americans were supposed to keep these deserters and guerrillas with their fughting skills here on our streets.
I want no DACA, let it expire and start deporting.


16 posted on 01/20/2018 4:19:32 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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To: Ennis85
Going back to 1980, prior to that year the El Salvador had a reformist coup setting the path for democratic reform

Democratic Reform = Communist Takeover.

References For Further Study:

Sandinistas, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Barack Obama


17 posted on 01/20/2018 4:24:42 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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“Democratic Reform = Communist Takeover.”

So why did the Cubans, Sandinistas & FMLN try to sabotage that then?


18 posted on 01/20/2018 4:35:37 PM PST by Ennis85
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To: Monterrosa-24

thank you for the perspective,Monterrosa-24


19 posted on 01/20/2018 4:38:05 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Ennis85

The Leftists defend these places, and then they insult them to the max.

I don’t think they have a clue what is really going on.


20 posted on 01/20/2018 5:47:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne (a/o 01/17/18 DJIA close 26,115.65, 45.993% > the morning of 11/07/16. 716.77 to 50% increase..)
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