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No, the West Did Not 'Demonize' Muhammad as PR for the Crusades
pjmedia.com ^ | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 12/21/2017 8:03:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux

To understand any phenomenon, its roots must first be understood. Unfortunately, not only do all discussions on the conflict between Islam and the West tend to be limited to the modern era, but when the past, the origins, are alluded to, the antithesis of reality is proffered.

We hear that the West -- itself an anachronism for Europe, or better yet, Christendom -- began the conflict by intentionally demonizing otherwise peaceful and tolerant Muslims and their prophet in order to justify their “colonial” aspirations in the East, which supposedly began with the Crusades. Bestselling author on Islam and Christianity Karen Armstrong summarizes the standard view: “Ever since the Crusades, people in the west have seen the prophet Muhammad as a sinister figure. … The scholar monks of Europe stigmatised Muhammad as a cruel warlord who established the false religion of Islam by the sword.

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That nothing could be further from the truth is an understatement. From the very first Christian references to Muslims in the Seventh Century to Pope Urban’s call to the First Crusade more than four centuries later, the “Saracens” and their prophet were consistently abhorred.

Around 650, John of Nikiu wrote that “Muslims” -- the Copt is apparently the first non-Muslim to note that word -- were not just “enemies of God” but adherents of “the detestable doctrine of the beast, that is, Mohammed.”[i] The oldest parchment that alludes to a warlike prophet was written in 634 -- a mere two years after Muhammad’s death. It has a man asking a learned Jewish scribe what he knows about “the prophet who has appeared among the Saracens.” The elderly man, “with much groaning,” responded: “He is deceiving. For do prophets come with swords and chariot?

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KEYWORDS: christendom; churchhistory; crusades; islam; madmoe; muslims; muslimworld; thewest; worldhistory
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Lots of good historical info in this article.
1 posted on 12/21/2017 8:03:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Well, he was demonic. The left got that part right, at least.


2 posted on 12/21/2017 8:04:29 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk

Among other things, mo hamid was a murderer. That is how he spread is so-called “religion”...by murdering others.


3 posted on 12/21/2017 8:06:01 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

A mass murderer, at that. Islam is best defined as a death cult - murder is the theme that’s run throughout, from it’s inception to the present.


4 posted on 12/21/2017 8:08:58 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: RoosterRedux

This explains it really well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo&t=8s

Bill Warner knows his stuff on this.


5 posted on 12/21/2017 8:16:32 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: RoosterRedux

All you have to do to ‘demonize’ Mad Mo is tell the truth about him.
He was a treacherous, murderous bandit, turned conqueror.
He was a pedophile; he married a six year old and consumated his ‘marriage’ with her at nine years of age.
He had to review his trance dictations to figure out which verses came from Satan (but they ALL did and they became the Koran!).


6 posted on 12/21/2017 8:27:24 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: RoosterRedux

What need is there to demonize a demon?


7 posted on 12/21/2017 8:28:04 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: RoosterRedux

There is no Allah but Satan, and Muhammad was his murdering pedophile.


8 posted on 12/21/2017 8:29:39 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: RoosterRedux

bkmk


9 posted on 12/21/2017 8:38:04 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: RoosterRedux

Mohammad WAS a sinister figure.

He began a wave of naked aggressions that lasted for all the centuries since, hundreds of major battles, and many more minor ones, that caused the dark ages and turned prosperous areas like North Africa into basketcases often full of abandoned cities and towns. Untold millions taken by Muslim slavers.

Islam was only peaceful till Mohammad had military power to kill and pillage innocent caravans or communities. Less than two decades, that’s all there is of peaceful Islam. That’s all there ever will be.

And the crusades? A few dozen battles to retake lands stolen by Muslims.

The Crusaders misbehaved at times because they were men of their times, but who are the Muslims to complain when their savagery continues to the present day?

Cutting to the chase: when Christians do not emulate Christ that’s a bad thing; when Muslims do not emulate Mohammad that’s a good thing.


10 posted on 12/21/2017 8:49:14 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: RoosterRedux

Jihad vs the Crusades: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsk9dYa4fGc


11 posted on 12/21/2017 9:01:00 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: RoosterRedux
“fraud was the sum of Muhammad’s life. … Muhammad was the great blasphemer, because he made religion justify sin and weakness”; due to all this, “[t]here can be no doubt of the extent of Christian hatred and suspicion of Muslims” (Daniel, 274, 107, 265).

Sounds just like Obummer. No wonder he was so accommodating to them.

12 posted on 12/21/2017 9:02:54 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my monkey, not my circus)
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To: RoosterRedux

Something tells me that Mohammed did it all on his own.


13 posted on 12/21/2017 9:11:02 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: RoosterRedux

Islam is, was and will always be...a War Plan.


14 posted on 12/21/2017 9:15:46 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Kate's Wall, build it!)
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To: RoosterRedux

The Red Pill Briefling and Q&A by Stephen Coughlin

... long but well worth it!

Part 1: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKzkuQyexZc

Part 2: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GJwn2abrT9E

Part 3: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5duZYL3TFKI

Part 4: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CumCTCbIXC4

Part 5: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwfiNjvcYo

Part 6 (mislabeled at part 7): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RikBsB7_Tbk

“Part 8” (mislabel continues): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7cmDOnZVS0

“Part 9”: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rKvVtuK8XkI

“Part 10”: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9iC4R9WqV9E

Q&A: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TIEWiMnw3x8


15 posted on 12/21/2017 9:29:33 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Bulletin board material for the locker room.


16 posted on 12/21/2017 9:29:43 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Rurudyne

Money quote: “when Christians do not emulate Christ that’s a bad thing; when Muslims do not emulate Mohammad that’s a good thing.”


17 posted on 12/21/2017 9:35:14 AM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: robroys woman

Most excellent. Short, and to the point.


18 posted on 12/21/2017 9:36:46 AM PST by deadrock
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To: elteemike

It’s the ultimate come back to those who want to make a moral equivalence between when Christians do bad and when Muslims do bad.

“Christian” is supposed to indicate a measure of discipleship.

“Islam” is meant to indicate submission.

Secularist act as if either is just a cultural association, though we cannot really blame them for it because the idea of “Christian” by association, even “culture”, rather than discipleship has been around for a long time before modern secularism (though it wasn’t used antogonistically in the West much before Secularist).

Secularist also miss, arguably wilfully so in many cases, the difference between emulating Christ or Mohammad. To the first they demand that folks NOT doing so are to be considered “Christian” so they can slander Christians and to the second they usually demand that only the peaceful verses of the Koran need be considered and so those actually following the Koran, and its principal of Abrogation, are somehow not true Muslims ... and when they do this it is to the benefit of Islam.

The West and the left in particular needs a Cranialectemy!

... while there’s still time to stop the importation of Islam....


19 posted on 12/21/2017 9:57:25 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: RoosterRedux

About the OIC and its role in enforcing Sharia, by Stephen Coughlin: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey-TRpkUiPI

(Yes, it’s long too)


20 posted on 12/21/2017 9:59:10 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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