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Flynn Splits from Trump Lawyers
NY times ^ | November 23, 2017

Posted on 11/23/2017 2:49:06 PM PST by Heff

A Split From Trump Indicates That Flynn Is Moving to Cooperate With Mueller

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To: Alter Kaker

So lemme get this straight. Mueller and his Gestapo squad basically telling Flynn to give them something on Trump or they will jail his son. That seems totally fair and likely to result in completely truthful information free from any self-preservation motivation to lie like a rug.

There is no evidence that Trump collided with Russia but rest assured the slow motion coup d’etat lead by Robert Mueller is busy manufacturing something.


21 posted on 11/23/2017 3:20:34 PM PST by FlipWilson (The)
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To: drewh

I posted months ago that people flip for all kinds of reasons INCLUDING protecting children. I got laughed at and mocked incessantly.

Flynn is more likely to flip to protect a child than Manafort , IMO.


22 posted on 11/23/2017 3:21:26 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: FlipWilson

Colluded.

I hat auto-correct.


23 posted on 11/23/2017 3:21:39 PM PST by FlipWilson (The)
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To: Heff

Flynn was a member of the Trump team for a remarkably short time. He himself has committed some serious errors of omission with regards disclosing earnings from some of the goofy lobbying things he was engaged in prior to becoming an official member of TrumpCo. Those omissions are IMO going to be his undoing because they constitute false statements and Mueller undoubtedly has him dead to rights. He’s an easy target on those and is going to be smacked.

That said, my impression; and it is only that, is that Flynn is no kind of traitor, he’s someone looking to make money from his contacts by giving interviews (yes, in some cases on Russian TV) and by staying close to his top-level intelligence contacts. I think he’s generally a pretty smart guy with a good sense of things but was remarkably absentminded when it came to disclosures. I’m certainly willing to be proven wrong.

There is going to be an assiduous effort on Mueller’s part to conflate Flynns activities before the election into the collusion zone but I seriously doubt there’s any *there* there. Mueller is under some pressure to come up with SOMEthing and no doubt Manafort and Flynn are the easiest targets.


24 posted on 11/23/2017 3:21:59 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: FlipWilson

And I HATE when it doesn’t correct as well.


25 posted on 11/23/2017 3:22:32 PM PST by FlipWilson (The)
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To: FlipWilson

I hat too :-)


26 posted on 11/23/2017 3:22:37 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: RummyChick; All
Sources: General Flynn ‘Wept’ As He Asked FBI to Spare Mike Flynn Jr

Exclusive: Retired Lt. Gen. Flynn broke down and sobbed, sources familiar with the matter said, when faced with the extent of the signals intelligence, or SIGINT, against himself and Mike Flynn Jr. Senior law enforcement officials presented Donald Trump’s former National Security adviser, already indicted at the time for failure to register as a foreign agent of Turkey, with irrefutable evidence of espionage committed on behalf of the Russian state by both himself and his son and business partner, Mike Flynn Jr. Espionage is a capital crime.

Separate sources with links to the intelligence community and the Justice Department report that a deal for leniency for his son offered to General Flynn, on which we exclusively reported earlier this year, may have been derailed by Mike Flynn Jr’s compulsive tweeting of divisive, pro-Kremlin propaganda.

As NBC news reports that Mueller is about to bring charges against both Mike Flynn and his son, we review our exclusive reporting on both Flynn and his son and the indictments that may be unsealed shortly.

In May, we broke the news that General Flynn had ‘flipped’, or had gone in to speak to the FBI. At that time, Mike Flynn was under indictment for failing to register as a foreign agent for Turkey under FARA, the Foreign Agents’ Registration Act.

General Flynn, sources reported, was arrogant and unconcerned. The charge of failing to register under FARA might only result in a term-limited prison sentence. Flynn had resigned as NSA and believed himself present in the FBI’s offices to discuss the terms of a deal on this charge.

Sources said that General Flynn did indeed discuss this offense, which was admitted, with FBI agents. However, they reported that after a brief period, a senior official entered the room and confronted General Flynn with knowledge of his wider conspiracy in Russia’s interference in the election. An outline of a case for espionage, a capital crime, where the default penalty is death, was made to Flynn senior, involving both himself and his son Mike Flynn Jr. While sources were not specific, they reported that the conversation involved both men’s knowing propagation, and co-ordination, with the Kremlin, of Russian propaganda, using an Artificial Intelligence ‘data weapon’ precisely to target that propaganda on social media. This technology and the way it was employed is also said to feature in an espionage investigation that is ongoing against Bob Mercer, sources say.

We exclusively reported these crimes in our story ‘Mike Flynn’s Treason Tour‘, which describes how Flynn and his son assisted Vladimir Putin in targeting Russian propaganda not only in the United States, but also right across Europe.

Sources stated that senior officials told General Flynn that they had what they needed to prosecute him and his son, and that they would intend to seek the death penalty. Separate sources reported that General Flynn broke down and wept, asking that the death penalty for espionage not be sought for his son.

Sources with links to law enforcement and the justice department stated that at first, senior officials declined to offer a deal of any sort. Later, they became amenable, these sources said. General Flynn was offered a stark choice; co-operate and spare your son execution, but no such promise was made as regards his own trial.

Mr. Flynn did then co-operate, sources said.

Mike Flynn Jr. angrily denied the accounts given by multiple separate sources, on separate occasions, of what his father had done for him, and in such a way that led her to believe that Flynn Jr. did not know. If correct, this would necessarily mean that the FBI had not allowed General Flynn to discuss his knowledge of the charges against father and son with his co-conspirator.

Despite this, General Flynn was required to put a brake on Mike Flynn Jr.’s divisive propaganda on Twitter, sources said. The younger Flynn was, however, so addicted to tweeting Russian messaging, these sources said, that the Special Counsel’s office decided at one point that the deal had been violated. It was after Flynn Sr. was informed of that decision that he began to fund-raise for his defense, sources said.

Anything General Flynn would have admitted prior to this would still be admissible at trial.

Note: New charges do not necessarily mean new indictments, but they can do.

A ‘charge’ is only leveled when an indictment is made public. Therefore, charges may be new for indictments that have been returned by a Grand Jury many months prior. Mr. Mueller may choose to indict General Flynn on some, but not all, of the possible charges against him, as he did with Paul Manafort.

27 posted on 11/23/2017 3:22:44 PM PST by drewh
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To: FlipWilson

Read the article at Fortune from a former DA about how they likely flipped Papadapolous.

They get tough. The guy who took down a mob boss knows how to flip people

The comment about the bloody seal on frozen ice made me laugh.


28 posted on 11/23/2017 3:24:23 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: Alter Kaker
Seems like he’s taking a plea deal.

That'd be my guess. Still, look for the lying liberal lamestream media whores to play this up as something really, really, really bad for President Trump this time! ROFL...

29 posted on 11/23/2017 3:26:31 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Heff

Hooray!

Mueller manufactured a process-crime, ala Scooter Libby!


30 posted on 11/23/2017 3:30:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Heff

“Any thoughts on this...”

Good for Flynn - he can tell the Left just how full of Shiite they are.


31 posted on 11/23/2017 3:34:40 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: drewh

This is a sad story in that it shows how a child’s arrogance and stupidity can bring himself and others down...which is exactly why you go after family.

IIRC, they went after the wife of a Enron executive to bring him down.


32 posted on 11/23/2017 3:37:58 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: RummyChick

the deep state channels say there is still one more big story to break this weekend..


33 posted on 11/23/2017 3:41:50 PM PST by drewh
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To: FlipWilson

So lemme get this straight. Mueller and his Gestapo squad basically telling Flynn to give them something on Trump or they will jail his son.


Flynn fabricates a story. Is caught. Goes to jail. Mission accomplished by Inquisitor Mueller.


34 posted on 11/23/2017 3:43:59 PM PST by Flick Lives (The FBI is a taxpayer funded Mafia organization)
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Nothing to worry about since TRUMP had nothing to do with Russia
35 posted on 11/23/2017 3:44:08 PM PST by KavMan
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To: drewh

bigger than Flynn would be Kushner.

I predict Flynn flips for his son..son escapes..Flynn gets reduced sentence

Flynn would have to flip on Kushner, Manafort, Trump or Pence ..anything/anyone else doesn’t mean much


36 posted on 11/23/2017 3:49:31 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: Heff

There’s no reason to believe Flynn isn’t the focus of the special council and the ‘cooperating witness’ isn’t someone in the administration.

Jeff Sessions maybe...


37 posted on 11/23/2017 3:50:37 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Heff

Of course it’s fake news. If there is any facts, they WILL be twisted beyond recognition and repair....


38 posted on 11/23/2017 3:51:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: MinuteGal

Just no.

This is not 38 degree chess.

Mueller is not in a secret illegal alliance with Trump

this is a hard core mob like take down.

Of course, feel free to find me later and say I told you so if you turn out to be right.


39 posted on 11/23/2017 3:52:58 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: RummyChick

If I had to guess for any msm second big story/ ‘stunnung development’, its probably Kushner for witholding evidence to congress. (nothing concrete to base this on yet)


40 posted on 11/23/2017 3:53:24 PM PST by drewh
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