Posted on 11/14/2017 7:38:55 AM PST by tcrlaf
I guess this is just how political succession goes in socialist paradises.
Mugabe is 93, and the hyenas have been circling, waiting for their turn in the palace.
Looks like this was triggered by Mugabe setting aside the VP recently - who was wired in with the Army.
If the plague should hop into and then refugee vector out of a coup-driven Zimbaboonnese civil war, all bets are off...
I dont give a damn what they worked hard on.
My point stands that they were idiots to have thought that setup that had in the 60s and 70s was going to work, and too many people here today act like it was perfectly reasonable.
You dont create a nation where a tiny number of people hold all of the political power over MILLIONS and pretend like that was going to work. And without a lot of outside help, it sure as hell didn’t.
APC looks Chinese with an ARV behind it. Also locomotives come of the tracks, armored vehicles throw tracks.
Interesting to see how this turns out.
You are ignorant as to what happened there. Rhodesia had rule of law. It had a thriving economy. Jobs were plentiful. Food was plentiful for everyone.
Then Zambia and Mozambique and Angola backed by the Soviets/Cubans sent in terrorists. Most of the white farmers fled when they were being murdered after brutal rape, their land started getting seized and handed out in small parcels to the terrorists. They went to Nigeria and were welcomed with open arms. Today they farm there and have massive successful farms.
Zimbabwe is a Communist kleptocracy with tiny dirt farms, no rule of law and starvation. I lived in South Africa and I saw the black Rhodesians fled Mugabe and his henchmen in massive numbers to SA. The Rhodesian system was unfair, but look at what you get when the vast majority of your population are uneducated savages with the right to vote. They only get to vote once.
Uneducated savages indeed. Sub-Saharan Africa thrived only under white rule — and that’s unlikely to return.
“Peace has come to Zimbabwe.....” - Stevie Wonder
“there. Rhodesia had rule of law. It had a thriving economy. Jobs were plentiful. Food was plentiful for everyone.”
” The Rhodesian system was unfair, “
That’s a polite way of putting it.
96% of the population had no political rights or representatiation, and the tiny minority that did expected those people to just go along with it.
Rhodesians just thought it would be ok, because look how Western everything looked? They were idiots that were a big part why the place is a pit today.
If only those millions just were happy to be seen as 2nd class citizens, if that, right? Man to be ruled by a tiny minority that barely saw you as people. That would be so cool!
If we could live like that in America, it would be sweet...
There's a world of irony in that statement. This is, after all, the party whose members ran riot in the countryside murdering farmers, and I do not mean only white farmers, that was always a media spin. The single common characteristic of the victims was not race, it was that they were non-ZANU-PF. And the reason for the famine in Zimbabwe was that the revolutionary party dispossessed anyone who wasn't a party member; there were black farmers sufficient at least to stave off famine if they'd only been left alone to do so. Nor were these roving gangs "war veterans" as Mugabe's story insisted. The war ended in 1980; most of them hadn't been born yet and were young ZANU-PF punks out to raise hell. What did happen was that the land acquired a swathe of urban absentee landlords who were senior party members, none of whom knew anything about farming. Seed grain was stolen or consumed and equipment was wrecked and there was no money to obtain more of either from abroad, certainly not money to lend to new farmers who were sent out to do subsistence farming on land that was unsuitable for it.
The crimes of revolutionary socialism were papered over by the Western media and paid for by Western taxpayers who saw unbearable pictures of starving children. And ZANU-PF was just fine with that. These are the people now invoking the "primacy of politics over the gun."
In 1975 at the peak it was 92% non Caucasian.
You didn’t address the external forces that brought in terrorists and recruited domestic Rhodesian criminals.
Mozambique, Zambia and Angola with $, arms and “trainers” from the Soviets/Cuba.
Our gardener was a Rhodesian black refugee. I often spoke with him. Zanu-PF is comprised of rapists murderers and thieves.
In 1975 at the peak it was 92% non Caucasian.
Oh...So that makes it totally ok then.
“You didn’t address the external forces that brought in terrorists and recruited domestic Rhodesian criminals.
Mozambique, Zambia and Angola with $, arms and “trainers” from the Soviets/Cuba.”
And for such a “happy” population that was supposed to be content with this arrangement, you fail to see that the door was left WIDE open for this to have taken place.
The majority of the population STILL have no political rights or representation and the world pretends it has a thriving economy and expects those people to just go along with it.
There, fixed it.
O, irony! Thou roots are so wide and yet not so deep...
We can only hope.
Not that it would get better immediately, but the process would finally have started. Sort of like Venezuala after Chavez. Real improvement is still one or two presidents away.
Telegraph (UK) reports:
12:01am (Wed, 15 Nov)
Explosions heard in Harare
Reports are emerging of at least three explosions in Zimbabwe’s capital Harare as military vehicles are seen in streets.
12:06am
Soldiers ‘in control of state broadcaster’
Reuters is reporting that soldiers have taken over the state broadcaster’s offices.
12:18am
Explosions were heard near University of Zimbabwe campus
1:56am
‘Shots heard near Mugabe’s residence’
A Harare resident has told AFP that gunfire erupted near President Robert Mugabe’s private residence.
“From the direction of his house, we heard about 30 or 40 shots fired over three or four minutes soon after 2:00 am.”
"U.S. Embassy Harare and U.S. Embassy Pretoria are aware that some flights between Zimbabwe and South Africa have been canceled, and U.S. citizens might be impacted. U.S. citizens whose travel is canceled should work with their travel agents to reschedule or re-route flights and should monitor news reports for updates on the situation"
I hope we don't get too many Americans trapped in a bad situation there.
Grace was serving as Mugabe's secretary/mistress in the 90's, while her Air Force husband was posted outside the country, during which time she bore Mugabe two children. After Mugabe's wife died, he married Grace, and she bore him a third child in wedlock.
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