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EXCLUSIVE – Mother of Roy Moore Accuser Contradicts Key Detail of Daughter’s Sexual Misconduct Story
Breitbart ^ | 12 November 2017 | AARON KLEIN

Posted on 11/12/2017 8:33:47 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: ifinnegan

Her story sounds like how a Pedo operates. I don’t know if it’s true. Am I allowed to say that it sounds real? As long as he stopped way back then when he marrried, I’m ok with him running and winning.


41 posted on 11/12/2017 9:55:05 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Your comment indicated you think Moore is a decades-long serial molester.

Is that what you’re saying?


42 posted on 11/12/2017 10:01:40 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Yaelle

Has he admitted to dating any of the four girls?


43 posted on 11/12/2017 10:06:34 AM PST by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: binreadin

Q: Why didn’t these stories come out when Moore was being elevated to the Alabama SUPREME Court....TWICE?!

A: Because nobody was offering 1000$ for
“Any dirt on Judge Moore” back then. That’s why!


44 posted on 11/12/2017 10:08:23 AM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
It is all heresay, which if it cannot be substantiated in a court of law, it is not admissible. Therefore it all has to be thrown out.

WaPoop is hoping that Judge Moore goes down in flames.

All the Repubes like McConnell should be ashamed of themselves.

The people of Alabama should be really upset that their election is being interfered with and screwed over by people outside their state.

45 posted on 11/12/2017 10:11:31 AM PST by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

So, all they have to do is look at Roy Moore’s iPhone and see if he called her. Oh wait...

I love that the story is the Girl gave Moore her Phone Number like it’s today’s world where every Kid has their own Phone.

If ever picked up a ringing Phone in our House, my Mother would yell out, who is it? We had one in the Kitchen and my Mother had one of those Princess Phones in my Parent’s Bedroom.


46 posted on 11/12/2017 10:12:12 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.Does the Government)
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To: hanamizu

Yep. I grew up in the 70s. Only ONE phone in our house.


47 posted on 11/12/2017 10:15:17 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (No weapon formed against me shall prosper! (Isaiah 54:17))
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Yep. I grew up in the 70s. Only ONE phone in our house.

If there was a second phone, it sure as heck wasn't in one of the kid's rooms!

48 posted on 11/12/2017 10:16:40 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Donald Trump: "People will die because of the Russia investigation, and it's a pure hit job")
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To: Yaelle

Yep. That’s why I’m waiting to hear more. Something is just not right.


49 posted on 11/12/2017 10:18:13 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (No weapon formed against me shall prosper! (Isaiah 54:17))
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To: Yaelle

Her story sounds like how a Pedo operates.


That’s it! This 50+ year old lady, who just suddenly comes forward with these allegations...after decades of opportunity (like when he was being assessed to run for Judge)....is a pedo.

At least, that’s how you’ve grammatically worded it.

I know you don’t likely mean this sudden memory lady is what you’ve accused, you’re likely referring to Moore.

Your posts on this Judge Roy Moore accusation just get more and more absurd, with each passing day.


50 posted on 11/12/2017 10:19:06 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Yaelle

“But I am feeling queasy because the details of how he got her alone and what he did with her alone sound like what a good predator of kids would do.”

Sorry that you have to feel this way, and I understand.

How do you know these queasy details are not false? Don’t some people study these things and learn the pattern, to where they can use under false pretenses?

Moore cannot prove a negative, so the burden is on the accuser. Given the timing, the accusations cannot be proved or disproved before the election under traditional legal norms/processes. People in general are conditioned to want to believe that no one would ever, ever, ever make such a serious accusation against another if it were not true. But then . . .there are . . .the Rolling Stone article about fraternity rape at UVA, the Duke lacrosse case, Tawana Brawley, ... even Bill Clinton and the blue dress... I can list even more ...there was always an element of “truth” in these stories - the “victim” had some contact with the accused, i.e. they were in physical proximity at a point in time. What happened next?

AL voters are being asked to decide for whom to vote based on an accusation that cannot be proved or disproved before the election. It could have happened, it might not not have happened. We will never really know. However, unless Moore now acts in a way in response to this accusation that suggests it might have happened, or he has a history like the Clintons of being an established liar, the presumption of innocence should be defended as his, even by the free press as his defenders. The accuser had plenty of time over the last number of controversial Moore elections/issues to bring this forth. Calling her motivations and statements, background and history into question is a legitimate public interest given the potential for her decision to make a serious accusation to impact a federal election.


51 posted on 11/12/2017 10:25:18 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: ifinnegan

Your comment indicated you think Moore is a decades-long serial molester.

Is that what you’re saying?


No. If I really thought that, I’d never support him for Senate!

My comment, possibly poorly written, was meant to say that her story sounds very realistic in the details of how predators get 14 year olds alone and what they do with them in order to groom them. But hey, she could have made it up.

And I hope, if these dalliances happened when he was young and unmarried, that he stopped at his marriage.


52 posted on 11/12/2017 10:25:30 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I am very sorry for the abuse you suffered. I do think this story is being presented to evoke that scenario.

But I have to ask what are you basing your evaluation of Roy Moore’s behavior on: a single accuser is suggesting this scenario, the other girls say that they had consensual dates, their mothers were asked and they were kissed once or twice; this accuser has accused three other pastors and the accusations were proven false; the story is implausible, the girl had no phone; there is no other suggestion of impropriety in Roy Moore’s 40 year public life?

The emotional strings the left is tugging on are very powerful but the left is using them to play us for fools. In short they are spinning the story precisely to make Moore sound like a typical predator.

Let’s spin it a bit differently as I have heard other Freepers suggest. Moore was in the service and then returned & went to Law school. By the time he was finished 9 years had elapsed and his age cohort had married. Moore was a religious man and wanted to marry a similarly religious woman who had remained chaste and raise a family. He searched among the families in his town and when he thought that a young woman seemed a good fit he approached her mother to see if the family would give him permission to date them with an eye towards courting and marriage.

While this is old fashioned it is certainly not scandalous and would have been more the norm in a poorer area 35 years ago when Fathers & Mothers wanted to see their daughter married to an older man who could provide for her better than a young man just starting out. I submit that this is a much more likely scenario than the WaPo version. WaPo needed to use these details to make their fabricated 14 year old seem plausible.

I believe we all owe Roy Moore the right to presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Proof is not just a poignant story, it’s evidence. The reason stories of 40 years ago are so suspicious is that the chances of proof are so slight that an accuser is free to craft them and the accused is hard put to deny them. We must ask cui bono (who gains?) or cui prodest (who advances?) to make sense of the stories. In this case the jump onto the bandwagon from McConnell, the GOPe and the Left makes that very clear.


53 posted on 11/12/2017 10:27:23 AM PST by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

I agree with every word. Innocent until proven guilty. The accusers have the burden of proof.

The only evidence that makes one look askance was his lie on Friday answering Hannity. I’d like to know why he lied; did he follow an advisor? Whatever. I’d take him as my Senator over the losers I’ve got.


54 posted on 11/12/2017 10:27:56 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
I don’t know if it’s true. Am I allowed to say that it sounds real? As long as he stopped way back then when he marrried, I’m ok with him running and winning.

I don't want to take anything away from your own gut hunches formed from your own past experiences. I posted this earlier on another thread.


- sometimes people REALLY ARE horrible monsters -

"Horrible monsters" don't stop at four and then go silent for 40 years.

Was Moore just a young thirtysomething looking for a companion, or was he a predator who couldn't stop?

Why haven't we heard more about this over his entire career? Remember how Anthony Weiner couldn't stop?

Or did Moore simply stop dating once he found his mate?


I guess, to me, that's where the term "predator" stops. Yes, the dates were with teenagers and he was in his thirties. But what if they were all blondes, or if they were all children of cases that came before his bench, or some other unusual connection that may have formed a pattern but not a predation?

I used the Anthony Weiner comparison, because even after being caught, being drummed out of Congress, going to addiction rehabilitation, and supporting his wife during the biggest political campaign of her career, he still couldn't stop himself from giving in to his predations.

Can the same be said of Moore? Maybe some people will allude to "those we know about" or some vague ambiguous response intended to leave doubt in the voter's mind.

That's why it's called psyops.

-PJ

55 posted on 11/12/2017 10:38:42 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Yaelle

“her story sounds very realistic in the details of how predators get 14 year olds alone...”

How difficult in this day and age would it be to make up a story like that?


56 posted on 11/12/2017 11:01:29 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Yaelle
Her story sounds like how a Pedo operates. I don’t know if it’s true. Am I allowed to say that it sounds real?

The lawyers and pols and reporters involved in this matter constructed and rehearsed the story to to make it sound just like that, making up up as little as they could, and making it as impossible to disprove as they were able.

The ONLY one who counts is the one who says she was 14. She is not a reliable witness, and she has contradictions in her story. While she can be heard out, my eyebrow arches when it is through a team of lawyers and spin meisters.

What also irks me is taking the rather innocent behavior with the 17 and 18 year-olds that are used to try to create a pattern. Those cases have nothing to do with the accusations of teh 14 year old. Heck, if he didn't try to steal a kiss, I'd suspect he was hunting for a beard.

My own wife registered the liquor license in Alberta, Canada for our wedding reception. A year later, I was denied a chance to purchase a bottle of Scotch in a state store in New Hampshire because my then 20 year-old wife was present with me. Sometimes the law is a ass [sic].

So, yes, getting a glass of wine with dinner in public for an 18 year old woman might be a violation of the law (for BOTH of them); that is NOT "plying" a woman. If it were, he would have gotten more than a couple of kisses out of it.

I fully expect the Washington Post to report breathlessly that the 32 year old Asst. DA Moore was endangering the safety of the general public and risking our country's energy supply by driving 60 miles on the Alabama Interstate when the national speed limit was 55 then. They have witnesses.
57 posted on 11/12/2017 11:12:28 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Yaelle

get a grip dont be blinded by your unfortunate history use common sense why now?


58 posted on 11/12/2017 11:28:30 AM PST by rolling_stone (coming attraction...)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Falsely accusing someone of a crime should result in the accuser receiving the penalty they the victim would have gotten.


59 posted on 11/12/2017 11:47:12 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Any bets that McConnell and Ryan are coordinating with the DNC?


60 posted on 11/12/2017 11:50:11 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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