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Blaming MDs for Opioid Crisis Is Malarkey
Townhall.com ^ | November 1, 2017 | Betsy McCaughey

Posted on 11/01/2017 9:14:33 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: jimmygrace
This article bashes Trump but does not even address his charge that doctors are over-prescribing narcotics

No he's not, I didn't read that at all. The author is saying that it's not the over prescribing of opioids by doctors that are creating the epidemic and cites the 13% emergency room overdoses as people who actually started due to pain.

21 posted on 11/01/2017 9:51:20 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Kaslin

I have been offered and turned down opioids routinely at the VA Hospitals because I knew I didn’t need them -— and the medical and pharmacy staff reacted with such surprise when I refused to accept the pills. One even suggested that I keep the pills just in case I knew someone else who needed them, since they were going to have to throw away the refused medication. My Dad came home from the VA Hospital with huge bottles of hundreds of pills that he didn’t need and never took. I can’t begin to name all the addicted Veterans I have known. I have this suspicion, perhaps unfounded, that the VA “Health Care” system gives Veterans opioids to make them go away. And just refill the pills through the mail, so very easy. Finally, one by one, Veterans get addicted and end up under a bridge somewhere. Then they just go away.


22 posted on 11/01/2017 9:51:56 AM PDT by LTC.Ret
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To: Kaslin

Doctor shopping is a common technique that junkies use


23 posted on 11/01/2017 9:54:35 AM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: mplc51
I want Trump to get credit for stopping the sales of drugs online.

But how am I going to afford my Cialis.

24 posted on 11/01/2017 9:56:55 AM PDT by usurper ( version)
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To: Kaslin

Plenty of doctors deserve blame
Many doctors prescribe irresponsibly. Not just with opiods. With antibiotics. With medicines that are contraindicated. Abd opiods are not prescribed in a bubble. Doctors know the addiction potential.


25 posted on 11/01/2017 9:57:45 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Moleman

Go to Craigslist San Diego, on the front page there is a search bar on left...type in xanax

legit I have ms and take xanax and run out, got some from another ad a year ago. Hot little blonde delivers..I even got her to really deliver her goods to me $$


26 posted on 11/01/2017 9:58:46 AM PDT by mplc51
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To: jimmygrace
This article bashes Trump but does not even address his charge that doctors are over-prescribing narcotics.

I noticed that as well. When somebody has an oversupply of a valuable commodity it often gets sold, that's where the pipeline is coming from. Docs should not give people more than a 5 day supply.

27 posted on 11/01/2017 10:01:41 AM PDT by usurper ( version)
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To: Kaslin

Lengthy but great article about how a New Orleans pharmacist took down a notorious pill pushing doctor.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/page/opioid_pharmacist_schneider_do.html


28 posted on 11/01/2017 10:02:43 AM PDT by Rebelbase (There are only two genders. The rest are mental disorders.)
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To: MrEdd

Details?


29 posted on 11/01/2017 10:03:12 AM PDT by Rebelbase (There are only two genders. The rest are mental disorders.)
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To: mplc51

wow , opened my eyes. Hot little blond is a bonus!


30 posted on 11/01/2017 10:03:59 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: Kaslin

Doctors have plenty of blame for this crisis...

I’ve seen worker comp doctors prescribe a 10 day supply of Vicodin for a two stitch cut one of my employees got on the job...

When I informed him he could not work in his CDL driver position while taking the drug, they went right in the toilet...

Problem solved....


31 posted on 11/01/2017 10:04:03 AM PDT by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: Kaslin
Blaming physicians *and* drug companies is BS! When I pass by my local Outback Steakhouse,seller of pieces of Prime Rib that even now are causing sublime fantasies in my head,I know that I can either turn in...or pass by.

Turning in would make me feel *wonderful*.Passing by would make several of my doctors smile with approval.And if Prime Rib was illegal I could add that fact to the smiles of approval as reasons to pass by.

32 posted on 11/01/2017 10:04:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Kaslin
this is exactly the truth....

drs may have prescribed too much to grannies and young sloths...

many people found out that they could feign injuries, and subjective ailments to get not only on disability but a constant flow of legal narcotics...

33 posted on 11/01/2017 10:11:09 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Kaslin

Eff opiod crisis

It’s like Salem


34 posted on 11/01/2017 10:12:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: Kaslin

people also have to understand how the Joint Commission that oversees hospitals was a BIG reason opioids took off...


35 posted on 11/01/2017 10:15:04 AM PDT by cherry
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To: jimmygrace
"prescription strength Tylenol"

ah, this is the American populace we're talking about....you know the ones who run to the doc because of "sinus infection" and are let down if an antibiotic isn't prescribed immediately....

dirty little secret is that Naprosyn (aleve) works very well for most arthritic pain but you can't tell people that over the counter meds are more effective than narcs...

we need to look in the mirror...

36 posted on 11/01/2017 10:18:28 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Moleman

Someone needs to get this to TRUMP. He would get the credit.


37 posted on 11/01/2017 10:19:36 AM PDT by mplc51
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To: xzins

In my profession I see more bad docs than good docs.

I once took a deposition of a renowned orthopedic surgeon who stated that in 35 years of doing spinal surgeries he never once wrote a “triplicate”. He told his patients that after they left the hospital, if they wanted narcotics that they would have to find a new doctor.

That guy was a good doc.

Let’s hope Kershaw wasn’t given narcotics. You don’t want to mask pain if you are a pitcher. It can result in permanent damage. If anti-inflammatories don’t stop the pain, then the problem is going to be exacerbated if you were to go out and throw a ball at 90 mph.

I once tried throwing a ball as hard as I could with a radar gun. It clocked in at about 60mph. I can’t imagine the mechanics to produce a 90mph fast ball. These guys have change ups in the 80’s.


38 posted on 11/01/2017 10:19:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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Your experience with doctors and opioids is exactly OPPOSITE mine. I have NEVER had any MD suggest opioids for pain as a first response unless it was for immediate post surgery. The only opioids I've been prescribed have been after major surgery, and those didn't have any refills attached. The problem is that opioids are the only way of dealing with severe pain. NSAIDS have a threshold over which increasing the dose has no further effect. Opioids don't have that problem - pain gets worse, increase the dose and the pain goes away.

The problem is the a$$hole druggies - total wastes of skin and air. There may be something more useless than a junkie, but I'm not sure what (maybe a NYT editorial writer or a Democrat senator?)

39 posted on 11/01/2017 10:30:55 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: jimmygrace; caligatrux
Re: “Doctors are over-prescribing narcotics when other pain medication could/should have been used instead...”

How, exactly, do you know that?

Human pain is not quantifiable.

Doctors cannot read minds.

Why should people who have severe pain be punished because 2% of the population wants to get high on opioids?

Here are the consequences of this utterly bogus opioid crisis:

(1) Most drug companies will quit the business, and the price of opioid pain killers will double or triple.

(2) Most doctors will quit prescribing opioids, for any patient.

(3) Completely useless “drug treatment” centers and “pain clinics” will sprout like mushrooms - paid for with your tax money.

(4) Thousands of Americans will be forced to endure severe pain because they can't afford opioid pain killers or because they can't find a prescribing doctor.

Full Disclosure...

I am a life long runner with exceptionally high pain tolerance.

My only experience with pain killers was two Percodans after hernia surgery 20 years ago, and generic aspirin for rare headaches.

40 posted on 11/01/2017 10:37:32 AM PDT by zeestephen
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