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To: gaijin

Dropping these links here.

https://www.intellihub.com/flight-records-indicate-a-covert-helicopter-rooftop-exfil-may-have-taken-place/

Flight records indicate a covert helicopter rooftop EXFIL may have taken place just minutes after the massacre

Authentic??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=vNkiSmeZ7-E

Las Vegas Air Traffic Control Confirms ACTIVE SHOOTERS ON THE RUNWAY (MULTIPLE SHOOTERS)


15 posted on 10/31/2017 8:31:05 AM PDT by maggief
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amazing how long this is being dragged out...even the freepers who were criticizing me a few weeks ago when i was pointing issues with the official narrative...here we are weeks later...and still nothing on this supposed ‘lone gunman’....

yeah, keep believing the b.s.


17 posted on 10/31/2017 8:34:18 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: maggief

The FlightAware data remain fairly interesting to me but apparently what happened with the people on the runway:

as some scared people scaled the fence, viewing the open space of McCarran Airport as providing distance from the shooting.

they they ran away onto the runway itself and air raffic had to be stopped.

There was a whole bunch of them and one of the airline’s put them up for the night in a hanger until morning broke.


18 posted on 10/31/2017 8:36:43 AM PDT by gaijin (Basically Obama lawyers would blatantly make up some totally groundless allegation against a fat cas)
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To: maggief; gaijin; Jack Black

I seriously doubt most of the “official” narrative so far.

However, if I wanted to conduct “covert helicopter operations,” then I would never turn the Identification Friend of Foe (IFF) transponder on (even to Standby - STBY). For simplicities sake, I will ignore the distinctions of Modes I, II, III, IV, and C, as well as how they are set, or may be “spoofed.”

I would also ensure that any airborne collision avoidance systems (if installed) were also off.

The Terminal Control Area (TCA) for McCarran International Airport is Class B airspace and more complex than I want to describe here. However, the heart of it is the airspace from the surface to 10,,000 feet above Mean Sea Level (MSL) to a radius of five nautical miles (NM) from the center of the airport.

The hotels in question are well within that Class B airspace.

For a helicopter to legally fly in that airspace, requires two-way radios, an operable IFF transponder, and clearance from Air Traffic Control (ATC) at McCarran. You are going to be recorded throughout your flight operations.

If you attempt to fly in that airspace with an operable IFF transponder and no clearance from ATC you are going to get a Flight Violation and create a significant amount of documentation you do not want or need.

For covert flight ops, you are going to fly visual flight rules (VFR) at night. Under optimal conditions, this approaches that fine line between Skilled Expertise and Fatal Stupidity, where proficiency; significant, recent, relevant proficiency is the only way to remain on on the correct side of that line.

The ambient lighting of the Las Vegas strip makes using Night Vision Goggles (NVGs) problematical. If the helicopter is dual-piloted perhaps one pilot is on goggles and the other is not. Ideally, you would not want this to be your first landing on that particular roof at night.

Your IFF transponder is off, as are all aircraft lights.

You would plan the flight to present as limited a visual, noise, and electronic signature as possible.

If the opportunity presents itself, you would fly into and out of the area in trail of another helicopter operating legally within the airspace, without having the crew of the legal helicopter see you or otherwise detect your presence.

Spoofing the IFF “squawk” of an Southwest Airlines jet is almost certain to get you detected and blow the covert nature of the operation.


34 posted on 10/31/2017 12:26:29 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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