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Don't buy into all of that rosy PR about DACA
Chicago Tribune ^ | 03/13/2017 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 09/14/2017 3:11:11 AM PDT by MilesVeritatis

Who wants to deport "Dreamers"? Not many people, it turns out. Even veteran immigration restrictionists seem willing to legalize this subset of immigrants in the country illegally if it is part of a package deal. That's true even though a lot of what's said about the DACA recipients is PR-style hooey.

For example, it's often said — indeed, former President Barack Obama just recently said — that the approximately 800,000 of them were "brought to this country by their parents." Well, many were. But that's not required to qualify as a protected Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program recipient under the various plans, including Obama's. You just have to have entered the country illegally before age 16. You could have decided to sneak in against your parents' wishes. You're still a “Dreamer!”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; daca; dacafraud; dreamers; immigration; trumpdaca
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1 posted on 09/14/2017 3:11:11 AM PDT by MilesVeritatis
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To: MilesVeritatis

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/frequently-asked-questions


2 posted on 09/14/2017 3:20:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To hear them whine, the DACA QUACKERS aren’t responsible for being in our country illegally....it was “someone else” that dragged them here kicking and screaming. Oh wait...it was their illegal alien parents.

Just think.....their Mexican parents deliberately put their children in harm’s way and subjected them to “onerous racist laws” and possible physical harm in a country they say is "teeming w/ xenophobic, hate-filled meanies, that demonstrate bias and animus toward latinos.”

The Mexicans willfully ignored their responsibilities......they foisted their young helpless bambinos on a “despotic, racist state” and forced others (US taxpayers) to medicate, school, feed, clothe and shelter their children.

Rampant child neglect is apparent here....neglect is a form of child abuse.

3 posted on 09/14/2017 3:34:58 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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...and forced others (US taxpayers) to medicate, school, feed, clothe and shelter their children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowbird


4 posted on 09/14/2017 3:38:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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DACA Fraud Rate at ’40 to 50 Percent’, Says Former Immigration Official
Breitbart ^ | 9/7/17 | JOHN BINDER / FR Posted by grimalkin

Fraud is rampant and “huge” for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, a former official with the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) agency alleges. Under DACA, nearly 800,000 illegal aliens were given temporary protected status and work permits to remain in the United States. Experts have told Breitbart Texas that during the Obama Administration, background screening was lax.

In an interview with LifeZette, former USCIS manager of the agency’s investigative unit, Matt O’Brien, alleged that the fraud rate for DACA is roughly “40 to 50 percent” and potentially even “higher”:

“Based on what I had seen and what I discussed with my colleagues, the fraud rate is 40 to 50 percent. It’s possible that it was higher,” he told LifeZette this week.

According to O’Brien, the DACA program was riddled with fraud and abuse from the beginning, where illegal alien applicants for the program allegedly lied on applications and were rarely caught by USCIS officials:

“There’s a huge rate of fraud in this program,” he told LifeZette this week on the subject of DACA.

USCIS employees did quick checks of DACA applications, he said, rather than thorough reviews, “in order to get the DACAs all racked and stacked quickly.”

He and the investigators working under him, called adjudicators, often found evidence that someone had lied about his DACA qualifications, but the office of the chief counsel at USCIS, he said, almost always dismissed the adjudicator’s recommendation to deny the application. “I would say 98 percent of the time, they defaulted to approving them,” he said.

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5 posted on 09/14/2017 3:40:46 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: MilesVeritatis
The "Dreamers" are ADULTS. These "adults" are incapable of living in a country they haven't seen in many years....and may not remember?

Why wasn't it a problem for THEIR PARENTS to come to America? Their parents were adults and had never been in America before they arrived.

Every year, hundreds of thousands of young people come to America to study in school and university. They have no problem traveling to a country they have never been to before.

What's wrong with the Dreamers? Send them back to Mexico with their parents...so their parents can change their diapers!

6 posted on 09/14/2017 3:45:01 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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DACA is a ‘religious’ faith based charity... thanks to Congress and W Bush and Obama, funded by US taxpayers. These so called ‘faith based charities’ rake in billions in human trafficking.

http://www.capwiz.com/justiceforimmigrants/issues/alert/?alertid=14503781&type=CO

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7 posted on 09/14/2017 3:49:22 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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SUCKING OFF THE BACKS OF STRUGGLING TAXPAYERS ---HHS doles out huge sums of tax dollars for latinos, Muslims and other separatist ethnics.

Besides HHS, other US govt agencies dedicate hundreds of millions of your tax dollars to various ethnic groups for microenterprises.

<><> the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID--is part of the State Dept),

<><> the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA)

<><> the Department of Labor (DOL)

In one recent year alone USAID spent $223 million on ethnics; microenterprise development activities, according to figures released by the agency. The USDA also allocates large sums to provide loans and grants to microenterprise development through a special “Rural Microloan Revolving Fund” and the DOL regularly pours lots of money into various microenterprise projects that are promoted as workforce investments in areas with high rates of poverty.

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Public assistance fraud in ethnic enclaves is not episodic....its epidemic. There is plenty of evidence in places populated by separatist groups like latinos and Muslims of collusion and conspiracy to commit massive crimes against the America they detest.

THIS JUST SURFACED --- CBS and NBC News reported mind-boggling fraud in a New Jersey separatist ethnic enclave. Being called one of the most sophisticated welfare frauds ever seen.

The contempt these ethnic fraudsters exhibited for taxpayers is an outrage.

The fraudsters colluded and conspired to open a fake electronics store (sold just 2 beepers)---as literally hundreds of fraudsters listed the store as their address in order to bilk assistance programs and to dupe govt authorities. Millionaire fraudsters falsified public assistance apps; their real income wire-transferred globally.

They also faked being company owners as an integral part of the complex scheme......wealthy families for years and years duped the US government into doling out nearly $2 million (probably 100 times that figure) in public aid they ere not entitled to.

An ethnic child daycare center in the enclave was also used to help hide one couple's true income, according to the criminal charges.

UNRAVELLING THE SCHEME: Using publicly available records, federal complaints and interviews with L/E, the media exposed the inner workings of the contemptuous scheme.

(A) More than $1 million flowed through limited-liability companies – legitimate corporations set up to hide ownership.

(B) The fraudsters colluded w/ relatives to act as straw owners of the companies.

(C) The fraudsters used the LLC corporate bank accounts to hide income.

(D) At the center of most transactions was a local beeper store that ire-transferred money across the globe.

(E) As the suspects falsified govt documents claiming poverty, they took in hundreds of thousands of dollars in undeclared income from the LLC front companies.

(F) One fraudster ran a school and siphoned off DOE tax dollars into his pocket and into a do-good foundation that used (and lost) the tax dollars on failed businesses.

8 posted on 09/14/2017 3:50:04 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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Thanks for the heads up, JMT.......deserves a repeat.

DACA is considered a ‘religious’ faith-based charity...able to rake in billions of tax dollars in human traficing.

Taxpayers can thank Congress, GW Bush and Obama for that atrocity.

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SOURCE http://www.capwiz.com/justiceforimmigrants/issues/alert/?alertid=14503781&type=CO

The DACA types are organized against American taxpayers, ready to extort more tax dollars. They have mounted a "Send a postcard to Congress" initiative. "Show your U.S. Senators and Representatives that Catholics and other supporters of immigrants want our elected officials to enact meaningful and compassionate immigration reform legislation."

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NO MORE TAX DOLLARS---just ship 'em all out.

9 posted on 09/14/2017 4:00:27 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: MilesVeritatis

Yet Trump has shown he has all intention to break two of his BIGGEST campaign promises — the above issue of DACA and the Wall.


10 posted on 09/14/2017 4:00:58 AM PDT by 198ml ("Profit")
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To: MilesVeritatis

It’s a curious negotiation going on. Trump Representing what’s in the best interest of America and the Dems representing what’s in the best interest of Mexico.


11 posted on 09/14/2017 4:01:38 AM PDT by Mustangman
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Don’t be too quick to judge.. There is an actual negotiation going on. DACA represents leverage to get a lot of what we want. We have got to get real boarder security and Trump represents our best chance. That’s all I have to say for now.


12 posted on 09/14/2017 4:05:00 AM PDT by Mustangman
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It’s a curious negotiation going on. Trump Representing what’s in the best interest of America and the Dems representing what’s in the best interest of Mexico.

Republicans in Congress want DACA as much or more than the elected Dems. Republicans in Congress, are letting 'we the people' know who actually controls Congress.

13 posted on 09/14/2017 4:05:40 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: MilesVeritatis
"...Who wants to deport "Dreamers"? Not many people, it turns out..."

"..."How could Nixon have won? Nobody I know voted for him..."

Typical liberals.

14 posted on 09/14/2017 4:10:48 AM PDT by rlmorel (If all you have is a Hammer and Sickle, everything looks like a fascist. *HT to Freeper GCFADG!*)
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To: MilesVeritatis

Daca is rampant with fraud.. its amnesty. If you don’t believe that then you are irrational and beyond help.
Expect massive border crossings now for the next six months. The first term of the Pelosi presidency hase begun!
This is exactly how we got the anchor baby laws. Exactly.


15 posted on 09/14/2017 4:40:48 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: MilesVeritatis

In the business world,”Win/Win” is a good proposition. In politics,”Win/Win” means the Democrats win and we cave while giving up most of the substantial demands,thus America loses. DACA and the Wall are slowly being watered down.


16 posted on 09/14/2017 5:17:56 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Like gun control laws, there is no anchor bastard law of any kind that’s truly constitutional just a lack of deportation enforcement.

That being said, pull all personal funding from RNC, Religious Institutions and charities until they do what’s legal and moral. Don’t buy goods from (P&G, Kellogg/Keebler) or patronize any company that’s pissing on citizens, whites or traditional values


17 posted on 09/14/2017 5:41:41 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: MilesVeritatis
Just as with the 1986 Amnesty the vast majority of those benefiting will be Mexicans. In the case of Obama's DACA it's 78% (622,000 of 800,000) while for the 1986 Amnesty it was similarly 77% (2,267,000 of 2,943,000).


(Hat tip to Oldeconomybuyer)

We've been living through nothing less than the fulfillment of "The Reconquista" dreams of Mexico's ruling class with other countries' illegals as cover and the all too critical assistance of the open-borders American 5th column.

18 posted on 09/14/2017 6:05:55 AM PDT by drpix
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To: MilesVeritatis

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3585730/posts
Don’t buy all the PR-style hooey about ‘dreamers’
Washington Post (!) ^ | 9/12/2017 | Mickey Kaus

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19 posted on 09/14/2017 7:04:01 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Who wants to deport "Dreamers"? Not many people, it turns out.

LOL - the same corrupt liars who do polls and TOLD US HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE PRESIDENT IN A LANDSLIDE are now telling us Americans love being flooded with illegals...

Effien liars...

Everyone who knows anything knows pollsters can get the "answers" they want by how they ask the question, what questions proceed the question etc. etc. etc.

20 posted on 09/14/2017 7:04:04 AM PDT by GOPJ ("$3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate criminal illegals.That's $1.2 Billion a year.")
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