Bill Browder's Testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee [Fusion GPS]

The Atlantic ^ | July 25, 2017 | Rosie Gray

[Fedora]

From Browder's prepared statement, published prior to his Thursday testimony. A summary of his Thursday testimony is at CNN with a predictable spin that omits mention of Fusion GPS: Businessman: Russian intelligence likely monitored June 2016 Trump Jr. meeting

[Voluntaryist]

Old story. This guy testified yesterday, told half truths aka connected Fusion to Russia, but omitted connections with Fusion to McCain/DNC.

The guy testified yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-RsAGjUXtg

[Voluntaryist]

Wow sorry, I just saw another story about this guy and reacted incorrectly. Thanks for posting

[ScaniaBoy]

I saw some of his testimony yesterday. The connection between Russia and Fusion GPS was covered. Don’t know if Browder has any direct knowledge of McCain, but that connection is pretty obvious from other testimonies (including McC himself).

What worried me was watching the senators. In comparison Inspector Clossesu appears a genius.

[silverleaf]

A terrible story
But no justification for WW3
And no justification for building proxy wars and arming brutes like al Qaeda and ISIS that have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands and displaced millions in the name of “ civil war”

[PGalt]

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

There are many enemies foreign and domestic.

[blueplum]

I can see why some Dems were a bit nervous about his testimony, here’s the money line - who did they lobby (cough, McCain), what documents were left with each congresscritter and which congresscritters failed to disclose said meetings with foreign nationals that were accompanied by unregistered foreign lobbyist, Mr. Dellums? oh, and just how many previous congresscritters are currently acting as unregistered or registered foreign lobbyists?:

“They hired Howard Schweitzer of Cozzen O’Connor Public Strategies and former Congressman Ronald Dellums “

[tinamina]

I watched the whole thing on YouTube (CSpan3) last night. It was enlightening but also frustrating because you could tell he does not want to stick up for the Trump family or Trump. He made it sound like just because he he wouldn’t meet with the people that Donald Trump Jr. should know better also. This guy’s been dealing with them for years and knows their methods but he thought Donald Trump Junior should have known better. Paul Manafort should have known better for sure, with all his experience with Russia.
So kind of incriminating Donald Trump Junior and I didn’t like that. All of the senators questioning him were Democrats except for Lindsey Graham. The rest of them wanted to incriminate Trump family of course.

[VR-21]

Bill Browder wrote an interesting book about his experience, titled Red Notice. While being a capitalist, and a financier...He's also the grandson of Earl Browder, the head of the American Communist Party in the thirties.

[thinden]

I saw some of his testimony yesterday. The connection between Russia and Fusion GPS was covered. Don’t know if Browder has any direct knowledge of McCain, but that connection is pretty obvious from other testimonies (including McC himself).

What worried me was watching the senators. In comparison Inspector Clossesu appears a genius.

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nothing mentioned about possibility that FBI also paid fusion GPS/steele for info on the trump dossier

[Cboldt]

The rule that Congress operates under is that it is okay to collude with foreigners for purposes of setting policy and making laws. It's just not okay to collude with them without having been elected first. That violates the sacred trust of elections.

Allowing collusion before election tends to upset incumbency protection.

[Cboldt]

-- What worried me was watching the senators. In comparison Inspector Clossesu appears a genius. --

The Senators know they are corrupt. This is like Tom Hadden prosecuting the Godfather. The questions are all designed to be "safe." The last thing Congress wants is an awake or restive public.

[Whenifhow]

Another perspective:

Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Shower Trump Dossier…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/07/27/congressional-testimony-the-russians-paid-fusion-gps-to-generate-the-golden-shower-trump-dossier/
Yes, that actually means FBI Director James Comey was using propaganda commissioned by Russia to attack Trump, as the framework to launch his FBI investigation into candidate Donald Trump and Russian collusion.
Expanding the reality. This means the Russian collusion narrative the U.S. media has been running with for a year to attack Trump, was actually factual collusion between Russia and the the U.S. FBI, via James Comey.

[blueplum]

“It’s just not okay to collude with them without having been elected first”

Sessions was elected and in office. Yet the Dem cabal demanded he recuse himself from participation in their little show.

Logic follows that anyone who met with girlygirl should also disclose, since she’s been characterized as conducting espionage. It might be enlightening to see just who should have voluntarily recused and who hasn’t. But the dems protect their own.

Regardless, it’s a bit hard to believe girlygirl inc’s publicity campaign was only directed at filling the social calendars of Reps. Especially in light of inviting numerous critters to the propaganda film screening shortly after months of meetings not to mention her being escorted around by Dem ex-critter Dellums. (iirc, the McCain meeting/pix was late Dec ‘16 - around the same time as the ‘look for the guy with a newspaper’ courier dispatch to Europe.) So girlygirl has been at her lobbying for some time.

[fatez]

A terrible story

But no justification for WW3

I totally agree with you but of course our side will not use this to its full affect. Hillary and Obama ran around talking endlessly about the Russian reset and they knew Putin is a corrupt bastard. Now the Dems want to demonize the Russians.

We should be pounding them on this, was their reset badly executed or extremely naive in light of all that has been revealed and continues to be revealed.

We need a special council that is highly conservative and a seeker of the truth to go after the Dems on all this crap. Wasserman and the rest of the DNC need to know we are very interested in Seth Rich, Fusion, the Clinton Foundation, etc...

[Cboldt]

-- So girlygirl has been at her lobbying for some time. --

Some "new," and some "old."

A new complaint filed by investor Bill Browder with the Treasury's Office of Foreign Asset Control alleges that California Rep. Dana Rohrabacher and his staff director, Paul Behrends, violated US sanctions when they accepted anti-Magnitsky Act material from the Russian prosecutor's office and used it to try to undermine the legislation in Washington.

Browder, who spearheaded the passage of the Magnitsky Act in 2012, said Rohrabacher's anti-Magnitsky efforts amounted to providing a service to Russia's deputy prosecutor general Victor Grin, who was sanctioned as part of the Magnitsky Act and would benefit from its repeal.

Rohrabacher's spokesman, Ken Grubbs, responded to the complaint Tuesday morning, characterizing Browder's OFAC filing as an attempt to obfuscate Russia's side of the story and slamming the wealthy investor as "a billionaire tax exile." ...

Reached for additional comment on Grubbs' statement, Browder said that in spite of seeing "documentary evidence showing that Sergei Magnitsky was murdered," Rohrabacher "has been knowingly spreading false information from the Kremlin that Sergei died of natural causes in order to assist certain sanctioned Russian individuals who want to get off the Magnitsky list." Browder, who called Rohrabacher's actions last summer "brazen" violations, added that is behavior is "not consistent with his role as a US Congressman" and needs to be "examined thoroughly and fearlessly."

Dana Rohrabacher slams Bill Browder for complaint - Business Insider - Jul. 25, 2017

US authorities have been going after the alleged perpetrators and beneficiaries of the fraud since Magnistky died in 2009. The court filing made by Prevezon, led by businessman Denys Katsyv, alleges: "Browder and his agents engaged in a series of misrepresentations to execute the fraud, to distance themselves from it, and to pin it on the Russian officials investigating Browder for a separate tax fraud his companies committed."

Accused turns accuser against Bill Browder's claims of corruption | The Independent | 9 Dec 2015

Veselnitskaya has been involved in the Prevezon case for a few years.

[blueplum]

see what I mean? Rohrabacher was one of the two identified Reps, McCain being the other. I’d have to check my old posts for the exact wording but he had said girlygirl left him ‘official Russian’ (info/propaganda/briefing) regarding the Global Mag Act. (I remembered that because it was almost the same wording as the accusation against Don Jr.- that girlygirl had given him ‘official’ Russian (whatever)

But not a peep or a squeek about a single Dem meeting or a single one that received the same ‘official russian’ (whatever) girlygirl was handing out to whoever she could.

[Cboldt]

-- But not a peep or a squeek about a single Dem meeting or a single one that received the same 'official russian' (whatever) girlygirl was handing out to whoever she could. --

Yep. That's how it works alright. Did you expect even handed treatment? LOL. The press and Congress are so transparently corrupt.

[Albion Wilde]

While being a capitalist, and a financier...He's also the grandson of Earl Browder, the head of the American Communist Party in the thirties.

This seems like a good time to promulgate again the link to this complete book, which mentions Earl Browder and his role in corrupting the United States:

School of Darkness

by Bella V. Dodd, ex-Communist

[VR-21]

I agree that Bella Dodd’s book is very much worth ones while to read.