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The Murder Of Charlie Gard
Townhall.com ^ | July 27, 2017 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 07/27/2017 7:05:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: yoe

And yet even a partial help might shine the light down a path that some future Charlie could travel.

There are 1 million cures for sick rats. Fine if you’re a sick rat. Not so fine if you’re a sick human.


21 posted on 07/27/2017 7:33:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

With the cancer yes I agree... but I was referring to the treatment he got... which as far as I can tell was just as good as what he would get here..

I went through Hodgkins myself 11 years ago so I know a little about cancer and treatments.


22 posted on 07/27/2017 7:36:31 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: wyowolf

But again the cornucopia of American knowhow was visited and copied.

Why couldn’t Charlie have been yielded at his own parents’ demand to try a nugget from that cornucopia. They’ve gotten full of themselves over there.


23 posted on 07/27/2017 7:43:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I have the opportunity to talk with a lot of tourists from Europe and have found this to be the case in most countries. The socialists in this country really have no clue what they are asking for. It works completely opposite of how they think it does.

There has never been any true compassion in a socialist system, there is always cause and effect. And if welfare payments were taxed 50% as “income” before dispersal they would be screaming at the top of their lungs.


24 posted on 07/27/2017 7:52:28 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Mostly true, Mostly i was referring to the timely and effective treatment he received.

As to WHY they wont let him go home, that seems pretty heartless to me, maybe all the machines they need to keep him alive wont fit in the house, that I dont know for sure just a guess. He sounds already like he has massive brain damage. Not sure “alive” is the right word.

I had a friend that went through this... and I sure wouldnt call it “alive”...yeah the machine kept him breathing and his heart there.. but “he” wasnt there..

terribly sad case :(... I hope the parents can recover..


25 posted on 07/27/2017 7:53:46 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Kaslin

Wrong. It’s not murder. It’s not killing.

It’s preventing treatment that might work. Reprehensible, but not murder. Words have meanings. Choosing the wrong word to describe a situation doesn’t change the situation.


26 posted on 07/27/2017 8:11:09 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I do think it is hopeless (as well as not our business) to constantly attack the NHS. As you point out, it is their system and they are absolutely gaga over it. I guess you could compare it to our appreciation of Social Security.
I just do not want single payer here. I’m getting to an age that would have the death panels salivating!


27 posted on 07/27/2017 8:23:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Same situation in Canada. Deep down I think many if not most Canadians suspect there are chinks in the armor of Universal healthcare; but they dare not speak it. Instead they double down on praising our system. We have gotten use to it and have learned to live with it.


28 posted on 07/27/2017 9:23:18 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: miss marmelstein

Well yes, but the American system is the punching bag in those countries. Even talking about “reform” gets the usual “Oh, so you want the US system then where the poor don’t get care?”.


29 posted on 07/27/2017 9:26:37 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Praising our system? Canadians and Brits do nothing but bash our system - even people who have never visited the USA.

Phillips is blaming the American media for the NHS/GOSH debacle. She also blames our judiciary system for some odd reason. Melanie is right-wing but is very dumb on the USA.


30 posted on 07/27/2017 9:27:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Sam Gamgee

She’s not blaming our medical system; she’s blaming our media for trying to destroy the NHS system. She also blamed our judiciary while praising wonderful British judges (tell that to Timothy Evans, but I digress).


31 posted on 07/27/2017 9:29:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Kaslin
If members of the collective start to question why they have to wait months for a routine procedure when the United States can deliver it nearly on demand,

Down here 'on the street', it takes up to six weeks to get an appointment with an approved-from-the-list GP, who has to issue a referral from the approved list, which takes another two or three months for an appointment, and only prescriptions and treatments on the approved list are approved. And that is what life is like for a lot of America. So it's a bit misleading for the author to claim that in America health care is, 'nearly on demand'. The only health care on demand is ER care and even that is limited to immediate and temporary preservation of life.

32 posted on 07/27/2017 9:38:23 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

On the street? Are you homeless? If you are, move to NYC. Blue states have wonderful Medicaid. I shouldn’t tell you that, of course, but it’s true.


33 posted on 07/27/2017 9:54:59 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: xzins

If the British Judge had sided with the parents and not the hospital the baby probably could have been saved. It was reported that one of the US physicians had a case with a patient that had the same decease several years ago. The Patient is still alive.

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34 posted on 07/27/2017 1:06:47 PM PDT by Kaslin (Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur - Politicians are not born; they are excreted. (Cicero)
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To: Theodore R.

Is Obamacare likewise the fault of the American people?


35 posted on 07/27/2017 3:24:21 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Kaslin

This is an act of terrorism as far as I’m concerned.


36 posted on 07/27/2017 5:38:33 PM PDT by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: Kaslin

Finally, someone is calling this fiasco what it really is — MURDER!


37 posted on 07/27/2017 5:46:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Kaslin

Single-payer health care exists under the banner of compassion and access, but it actually functions as a form of government control. The government sets the prices and decides what treatments are available based on the price. If a procedure could work but is too expensive, tough. Same goes for drug treatments.

...

Isn’t it strange how these same governments are willing to spend any amount of money on the climate change scam?


38 posted on 07/27/2017 5:50:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: miss marmelstein

“on the street” is a colloquailism - i.e., man on the street - in the real world

Let me be the first to dash your impression of Medicaid in California - it sucks eggs for anything other than a sore throat or scrapped knee. I got up close and personal with it when I was thrown on the Medi-cal roles (along with thousands of others) instead of the Covered California roles where I should have been enrolled. Have you ever been sent 40 miles to practically onto a reservation out in the middle of nowhere to see a specialist with 40 people in his waiting room? yeah. Been there done that. It gives me so much to look forward to when I’m eligible for Calif-run Medicare.


39 posted on 07/27/2017 6:51:43 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: yoe

You are WRONG.

Children have had the treatment and are NOT in a vegetative state.

Little Charlie’s mom posted a picture on Twitter of a healthy little girl who had treatment.

And here’s another case:

“..Arturito was diagnosed with a similar mitochondrial depletion syndrome to Charlie and was the first person in the US to receive nucleoside therapy.

Art said he put Charlie’s parents in contact with the Columbia University Medical Centre in New York..”

“An American father whose son was successfully treated for a similar condition to Charlie Gard says he ‘deserves the opportunity to live.’

Art Estopinan was told his son only had two months to live, but four years after being brought home he can now move his hands and feet.

excerpt: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/04/father-of-boy-with-similar-condition-to-charlie-gard-says-he-deserves-opportunity-to-live-6754625/


40 posted on 07/28/2017 12:03:39 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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