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Tesla Battery, Subsidy and Sustainability Fantasies
Townhall.com ^ | July 22, 2017 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 07/22/2017 9:39:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I never said EVs were pollution-free or environmentally friendly.
I do say their performance specs are amazing, powering them is cheap, and the option to run them completely off-grid trumps the negatives when faced with prolonged fuel supply disruptions.


41 posted on 07/22/2017 10:49:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Kaslin

Great article and thought experiment.


42 posted on 07/22/2017 10:49:27 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: cymbeline

And you could write a thank you note to everyone who pays taxes from the money they earned to subidize your free ride...


43 posted on 07/22/2017 10:51:32 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: ctdonath2
Musk himself is BEGGING Congress to end the subsidies.
44 posted on 07/22/2017 10:54:16 AM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: Vendome

Same said about gas cars a hundred years ago ...


45 posted on 07/22/2017 10:54:22 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ctdonath2
Musk himself is BEGGING Congress to end the subsidies.

Linky?

46 posted on 07/22/2017 10:55:22 AM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: dangus

“Tesla is a battery companu, not a car company.”

Understood, but I’ll disagree.
Sometimes a new company has to practically invent, or hugely compete in, another industry just to feed their core competency. Apple wants to make competitive phones, so had to organize electronics suppliers to make bleeding edge components into instant commodities. Netflix wanted to stream videos, but invented & dominated DVD rental mailing just to lock the market until networks caught up. Tesla is reinventing EVs, but doing so requires 100x increase in battery production until another electric power technology emerges.


47 posted on 07/22/2017 11:01:17 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: gogeo

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4069065-elon-musk-begs-feds-please-end-teslas-tax-subsidy
...among others.


48 posted on 07/22/2017 11:03:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Kaslin
EV vehicle range extender (after photoshop):

In its natural state in the garage:


49 posted on 07/22/2017 11:06:08 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Civil Rights movement compared content of their character to skin color and chose the latter)
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To: Kaslin

Are Tesla owners the most smug people ever, or just the ones I’ve met?


50 posted on 07/22/2017 11:14:24 AM PDT by GnuThere
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To: Kaslin

They can have my Shelby GT500 when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. Meanwhile, I will drive a real car, not a glorified golf cart.


51 posted on 07/22/2017 11:20:40 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Can your gt500 do 0 to sixty in 2.3 seconds?


52 posted on 07/22/2017 11:23:03 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ctdonath2
He's being more than a little disengenious. Tesla's subsidies are about to run out anyway, and Musk is perfectly happy to keep the money his company has received. What he wants is for Congress to discontinue everybody else’s subsidy.
53 posted on 07/22/2017 11:23:42 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: cymbeline

The Volt does that and more. 53 miles on a charge before gas engine kicks in to recharge battery as you are driving (car is always running off battery).


54 posted on 07/22/2017 11:28:20 AM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: SVTCobra03

Stock Tesla beats 662 hp shelby with drag radials by one second in quarter mile.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+versus+gt500&oq=tesla+versus+gt500&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.8822j0j4&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8


55 posted on 07/22/2017 11:33:11 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Kaslin
...Tesla sales plunged to nearly zero in Hong Kong and Denmark, as huge government Tax supplied subsidies were eliminated.
56 posted on 07/22/2017 11:37:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator

Before or after Pluto?


57 posted on 07/22/2017 11:41:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ctdonath2
The man has made reusable rockets a mundane reality, cutting launch costs by an incredible percentage.

Ask yourself this:

If I get launched into orbit; do I want an untested launch vehicle behind me (a new one) or one that has gone up 99 times before?

58 posted on 07/22/2017 11:43:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

If PT Barnum had gone into the auto industry instead of the hook’um business.. who knows what we would be driving. I guess Elon is giving it his best shot,, damn the environment or not.


59 posted on 07/22/2017 11:45:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: ctdonath2
I do say their performance specs are amazing,

Most ALL the specs are 'amazing'; if taken one at a time.

How much HEAT can you get in the winter and what does it do for range?
(Let me know if THIS is ever answered)

The same for COOL AIR in the summer.

What the range of running on JUST the gas engine? Just the Batteries??

What obtuse formula is used to conjure up equivalent gas mileage in an electric???

60 posted on 07/22/2017 11:48:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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