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Tesla Battery, Subsidy and Sustainability Fantasies
Townhall.com ^ | July 22, 2017 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 07/22/2017 9:39:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
...today’s cars emit about 3% of what their predecessors did.

In 1961, if you had told a liberal that we could get cars and trucks pollution down to 3% of what it is now, they'd be ecstatic. But, like today, once a utopian goal is achieved, libs move on to the next one, never being satisfied...

21 posted on 07/22/2017 10:24:40 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Owen

“... but so is this guy’s statement, rendering the rest of his work meaningless.”

Uh, really?

Stick to your marshmallow major, there slick.


22 posted on 07/22/2017 10:24:56 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: cymbeline

They have those, it’s called a Volt.


23 posted on 07/22/2017 10:25:08 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Kaslin
Two or three times shorter?

Can we quantify that? What is the length of something three times shorter than 1000 feet? It would have to be something that is negative 2000 feet.1x1000feet is a thousand feet. Three times a thousand feet is three thousand feet. This formulation" x times shorter than" is utterly meaningless in plain English. What does the writer think he is saying?

24 posted on 07/22/2017 10:27:10 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: joshua c

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25 posted on 07/22/2017 10:27:16 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Vince Ferrer

Now I remember reading about their unique planetary gear system.


26 posted on 07/22/2017 10:30:19 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Kaslin

Article complains much about the limits of technology without considering the advancement of technology. Building a commercial EV with 200+ mile range was practically impossible not long ago,

And, again, naysayers fail to note (among other things) the value of a standard car able to be completely powered by independent home energy production (solar, wind, propane, gas, etc).


27 posted on 07/22/2017 10:30:52 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: arthurus

Colloquial language: technically incorrect, but understood by everyone to the point that you’d have to be a deliberate idiot to not understand.


28 posted on 07/22/2017 10:32:42 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: jeffc

Hence “micro aggressions”.


29 posted on 07/22/2017 10:33:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Calling me an idiot?


30 posted on 07/22/2017 10:35:02 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The subsidies distort the market. End the subsidies, and many of his competitors will collapse.


31 posted on 07/22/2017 10:37:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Sorry but Musk is the type of con artist and dreamer that traditionally has fooled the American people on occasion. He recently proclaimed that he has “government approval” for a vacuum chamber to transport people on the east coast. Really? What “controlling legal authority” ( in the words of high priest Al Gore) gave him that approval? Rational people understand that every entity in the universe obeys the laws of physics.An industrial society is not sustainable on “green energy”. Ultimately the materials, manufacture, propulsion and maintenance of Tesla cars will require the burning of perhaps more carbon fuels than comparable internal combustion engines. Musk shows signs of being a bit deranged. Yet he has the support of people with limited intelligence and insight.


32 posted on 07/22/2017 10:37:49 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: TexasGator

Clarification: the author of post #24 is an idiot.


33 posted on 07/22/2017 10:38:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Good thing electricity from your outlet is magic and doesn’t generate any carbon dioxide.

And good thing mining the raw materials for the batteries isn’t far more more harmful to the environment than fracking.


34 posted on 07/22/2017 10:39:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: ctdonath2

Okay- genera;;yu understood. So you tell me, what length is three times shorter than 1000 feet? and how do you come to that answer?


35 posted on 07/22/2017 10:40:42 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: ctdonath2

Okay- generally understood. So you tell me, what length is three times shorter than 1000 feet? and how do you come to that answer? Colloquial or not this is about the ability to think and reason.


36 posted on 07/22/2017 10:42:32 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: allendale

The man has made reusable rockets a mundane reality, cutting launch costs by an incredible percentage. Yes, it really is rocket science - and he did it while making EVs a competitive reality, along with home solar and inexpensive tunneling. That’s not “scam”, even if your legislators insist on throwing money at him.


37 posted on 07/22/2017 10:43:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Kaslin

The real issue with electric cars:

Oil is waaaay more expensive than coal or natural gas. But you can’t make coal portable, and natural gas compression for vehicles is way more expensive than gas’s cost savings. Electric cars allow you to make coal, nuclear, renewable fuels or natural gas portable.

Also, without batteries, solar and wind power work only as marginal energy sources. Tesla cars’ batteries allow you to “download” your power at noon, when solar is abundant, and use it at evening.

So no, Tesla is no environmentalists’ magic bullet. But it’s not a waste of all the investors’ money, either. (Although its valuation of twice GM is amazing, and I wouldn’t swear it couldn’t go down significantly.)

But keep in mind: Tesla is a battery companu, not a car company.


38 posted on 07/22/2017 10:44:36 AM PDT by dangus
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To: arthurus

I’ll leave your typo to make my point for me.


39 posted on 07/22/2017 10:45:09 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: arthurus

10 prolly cuz it wud b da cube root?


40 posted on 07/22/2017 10:46:17 AM PDT by TexasGator
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