I’m aware of what you said, and understand it. Have spent time discussing it with some of them.
I agree that for them to be successful, they will have to adapt. Remember, Israel was socialist in the beginning, Kabutz.
And yes, I think the world outside of Turkey understands the reality of the Turkish Propaganda. In the past, the US went along with it. Now? It’s clear Turkey will never destroy the Islamists. (Erdogan is one)
If Erdogan is not chained down, he will commit Genocide.
Absolutely true, and I DO remember well.
In fact, Israel's Kibbutz communities were economically commune situations, and they lasted a long time. I believe the last one went peacefully out of "business" within the last decade.
If Erdogan is not chained down, he will commit another Genocide.