The Details: What’s in the Health Care Bill

Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | May 4, 2017 | Rush Limbaugh

[Ray76]

As with the previous version of this bill, structures are left in place and rates are set to zero. This is what they call “repealing ACA”.

[vette6387]

“I might be inviting a storm of flames by saying this on FR...but overall I like the plan. It’s miles better than Obamacare, and while not perfect and containing a few things here and there I’m not crazy about, I can live with it.”

Yes, and at least it’s a start! If it removes the “required menu of HC necessities,” You at least have a mechanism where the individual can buy coverages that he or she thinks they need and not an “Obamacare laundry list” of stuff you don’t need (and they are mostly political add-ons that Liberals liked) gets the process of premium reductions started. The one item that doesn’t get enough discussion, but Scalise touched on it today in the Rose Garden is deductibles. You are paying for nothing, if your deductibles are so high you never get to your first dollar of insurance coverage. Say you buy coverage for $10k but your deductible minimum is another $10k. You are looking at having to spend $20,000. before you are “covered” for anything. So your $10k premium just goes to cover some indigent a$$hole that the insurance company has had foisted off on them by Obamacare. And He probably ends up with better healthcare than you do and you’re paying for it. Where I come from, that’s just vote buying.

[JohnG45]

That you Rush? Trolling for hits?

[dynoman]

The clue is in who picks up the slack, in this case money.

[RedWulf]

The freedom caucus made a good call sticking to their guns, this bill is a lot better. It was mostly the Rinos rolled over this time around.

However, it was Trump’s attacks on the freedom Caucus that caused the Rinos to roll over. The freedom caucus took a beating because of Trump’s attacks and the Rinos didn’t want the same to happen to them so they gave in. This gives me hope that Trump will force the senate to end the filibusterer with similar tactics.

Now before we have our resident “I’m not a nevertrumper, but I really am a nevertrumpers” pipe in, Trump doesn’t play 3 chess as you like to mock him for. What he does do is always own the downside. Trump full intended to pass the first bill. But when he was stopped by the freedom caucus he used it an opportunity to make an example of what could happened if you cross Trump. That action of Trump is why we have this better bill today. To Trump that’s just owning the downside. For people not as smart as Trump that’s 3ed chess.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Obamacare - “It is repealed.”

If it was repealed, what happens to the government health exchanges?

[dynoman]

Rush didn’t say.

[Nailbiter]

single payer - slavery would be better description

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Rush didn’t say.

That would be one's first clue that Obamacare has not been repealed.

[Yosemitest]

Ann Coulter summarized it best:

Mulvaney's most disturbing comment was to say that what upset Trump the most was the Democrats' "spiking the football" on this deal.

Apparently, Trump's fine with no wall -- and everything else in a bill straight out of George Soros' dream journal --
if only the Democrats hadn't been so rude as to tell the public about it.
When your main complaint is that the other side is gloating too much, maybe you're not that great a negotiator.

... Democrats have got to be pinching themselves, thinking, Am I dreaming this?

... Admittedly, Trump has the enormous handicap of having to work through congressional Republicans, who are feckless cowards.

... This isn't new information. We knew Washington Republicans were useless.
That's why we elected such a comically improbable president as Donald J. Trump.

The deal was
that we were getting the Hollywood version of a New York businessman:
an uncouth, incurious rube -- who would be ruthless in getting whatever he wanted.

In addition to being the only candidate for president in either party taking America's side on trade, immigration, jobs and crime,
what set Trump apart was his promise that we would finally win.

... We're not winning.
We're losing, and we're losing on the central promise of Trump's campaign.

How would Trump, the businessman, react if an underling charged with developing a new golf course could never break ground?

What if the subordinate's progress reports sounded like this:

I have given 21 speeches to various chambers of commerce and neighborhood groups, assuring them that there's going to be a golf course.
Everywhere I go, I say,
"Don't worry about it. It's going to be built!"
I have started a commission to study developing a golf course.
I have put up a sign saying,
"Golf course coming!"
And I have caved, and caved, and caved -- so now our opponents know what good guys we are.

Trump would fire that employee so fast your head would spin.

We want the ruthless businessman we were promised.

[dynoman]

Logical fallacy; too few alternatives.

[ez]

What a freakin mess. What buisness does the Fedgov have dictating health insurance anyway? Where is that among the list of Constitution powers? Scuttle the whole thing and leave us the hell alone.