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Why is New York killing health insurance for my employees?
The New York Post ^ | t April 14, 2017 | Kevin Pickhardt

Posted on 04/15/2017 5:19:24 PM PDT by TBP

The share of US companies that do not provide health insurance spiked this year, to nearly 55 percent. After next year, many New York firms may have to join them — or risk downsizing.

Thanks to a 2012 state law, many mid-sized firms — those with between 51 and 100 insured employees — may have to drop their health plans, beginning in 2019. Wittingly or not, the state is pushing employers to purchase much more expensive and often less comprehensive insurance.

Absent changes to the law, businesses and employees could collectively lose millions of dollars — and companies would have to consider staff reductions. Empire State legislators must change course.

At issue is a method of providing health benefits called “self-insurance.” Under this strategy, employers pay their employees’ medical claims directly, rather than buy coverage from a conventional insurer.

Self-insurance encourages companies to design comprehensive health and wellness initiatives that focus on keeping employees healthy, versus waiting to treat them when they are not. At my company, Pharos Systems International, our wellness program covers everything from subsidized exercise and yoga to classes taught by experts on topics like nutrition, child care and the impact of mental well-being on health.

The results can save employers and employees significant amounts. Since self-insured companies only pay for the health care their employees consume, they benefit from helping their employees stay healthy. Employers and employees can hold onto money they otherwise would have paid in insurance premiums.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: healthinsurance; newyork
That's the way progressives want it. The more harm they can do, the more dependency they can create. The more dependency they can create, the more voters to keep them in power. And that is the ONLY thing they care about.
1 posted on 04/15/2017 5:19:24 PM PDT by TBP
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Why is New York killing health insurance for my employees?

They're Dems, that's what they Do.

Awk Awk, Squawk Squawk

2 posted on 04/15/2017 5:30:08 PM PDT by CptnObvious
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TBP wrote: “That’s the way progressives want it. The more harm they can do, the more dependency they can create. The more dependency they can create, the more voters to keep them in power. And that is the ONLY thing they care about.”

I don’t think I agree with that. Back during the HillaryCare fiasco, I asked several liberals this question. Suppose there are two possible health care systems. In the first system there are two tiers of service. In the second system there is only one tier but that tier provides less service that either tier in the first system. IOW, everyone is better off in the first system even if some are more better off than others.

Rather surprisingly, many liberals preferred the second system because it was “more fair”. Actually, I think they were afraid that someone would have something they didn’t have.


3 posted on 04/15/2017 5:35:50 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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IOW, they would prefer the lesser system. The one that would cause the more misery for the greater number of people.

That’s fair — and cruel. But that’s progressivism. Maximizing misery for all, as equally as possible.


4 posted on 04/15/2017 5:44:41 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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Why is New York killing health insurance for my employees?

Because you are an evil capitalist pig, probably a white privilege evil racist, homophobe, islamophobe, leperphobe, etc.


5 posted on 04/15/2017 5:56:28 PM PDT by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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It is as the author suggests. Protecting formal “insurance plans” where the employer has a plan run by an insurance company, versus self-insured plans, where the employer is self-administering their own plan. A self-insured plan, dominated or not by health savings accounts, might use, from outside services, a “claims” processing/administrator and possibly, jointly with that or separately, a manged-care coordinator and/or a prescription drug processor. With a self-insured plan those are services the self-insured plan selects, or deems to do internally, and not the “insurance”, which is their own benefit plan, with their own rules, premiums, and other financial self-adminstered asepcts, including, importantly buying stop-loss insurance.


6 posted on 04/15/2017 5:59:25 PM PDT by Wuli
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This was part of the plan all along - disrupt the current system and force employers to buy ever increasing insurance plans or offer none at all.

So they offer none at all and then the Dems say “See? Insurance doesn’t work and it’s all the republicans fault - so now you need socialized medicine or you’re going to die.”

It will happen this year and they’ll make their push for it as part of thei tactics to regain power in the primaries next year.


7 posted on 04/15/2017 6:12:21 PM PDT by Skywise
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Whatever the case, it’s obvious that we’ve all bought into the notion that government must be involved in health insurance.


8 posted on 04/15/2017 6:13:59 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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The ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF wants ~ and is DIRECTING the policies that regulate ALL health care plans
in the United States ~ TO FAIL !
NEVER FORGET THAT !

Many of us have said for many years that Obama is doing this INTENTIONALLY.
He using the old Soviet Plan from 1934 or earlier.




Only idiots and the evil voted for Obama, or ANY of the Democrats.
AND NOW, WE CAN ADD "Establishment Republicans" TO THAT LIST, ALSO!
They've lied to us, constantly, and really are "Collapsing the System".
And now, these "Useful IDIOTS" who voted for them, are buying the lies that "Obamacare was designed to work." ?
It was designed to fail from the start.
THEN ... THEY GO TO THE "SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM". They've been sucking our wallets dry for over four years now on the "Obamacare" LIE.
AND NOW THEY WANT MORE TAXES ?
Our Founding Fathers would have hung them already!

Lets review:

Who was it that expanded Medicare and Medicaid to cover many, many more people than it was originally designed to cover?

So Democrats,
Sen Mark Kirk's statement Thursday, Dec 1, 2011 ... It's not our fault that DEMOCRATS raided the Social Security Trust Fund.
Let's remember ...

9 posted on 04/15/2017 6:18:15 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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I was going to say that if they didn’t re-insure against catastrophic losses, they were taking a huge risk. But I clicked on the link and see that they do.

As for the question - the self insurance programs are a barrier to the socialist dream of single pay.


10 posted on 04/15/2017 6:30:33 PM PDT by PAR35
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True equality occurs when everyone is dead.


11 posted on 04/15/2017 7:03:53 PM PDT by RossA
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I find the word “wellness” VERY annoying.

I was at my pharmacy and a “Wellness Consultant” approached me and asked if I had any questions. I told her that I was 84 years old and what on earth could she possibly tell me about keeping healthy?

She backed off.

Wellness,for God’s sake. Dumbest word ever.


12 posted on 04/15/2017 8:57:14 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

What’s your secret for your longevity?


13 posted on 04/15/2017 8:59:38 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: be-baw

Genes.


14 posted on 04/15/2017 9:02:42 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears
Genes.

Wise AND honest!
How novel!

Kudos.

15 posted on 04/15/2017 10:23:54 PM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: TBP

See tag line...


16 posted on 04/16/2017 4:23:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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This has to be a trick question. Didn’t you fine New Yorkers vote for 0bama not once but twice? You lot even elected the carpet bagging Hillary Clinton for senator. You even voted for Hillary for president. What part of you cannot fix stupid do you people not understand. Voting for Democrats is not working out for you folks but you keep doing it.


17 posted on 04/16/2017 4:32:18 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: DugwayDuke

Pretty much explains their affection for Communism, Islamofacism and other top down philosophies . . .


18 posted on 04/16/2017 6:08:18 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Wuli

They hate competion.


19 posted on 04/16/2017 12:58:20 PM PDT by ully2
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