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Trump Orders EPA To ‘Zero Out’ Global Warming Programs
dailycaller.com ^ | 3/2/2017 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 03/02/2017 8:03:19 AM PST by rktman

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To: bigtoona

IMHO Carly is a useless, empty suit. A fraud. A quota. Another bloody RINO.


21 posted on 03/02/2017 9:32:04 AM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: bigtoona

But I certainly agree with your other thoughts!


22 posted on 03/02/2017 9:32:42 AM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: rktman

Endocrine grants??? What the is the EPA doing handing out Endocrine grants? If it were the Dept of Health, or the CDC, I could possibly understand it, but the EPA?


23 posted on 03/02/2017 9:34:56 AM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: Kay Ludlow

The theory is that something like estrogen and progestin from female birth control pills end up in the water supply and are pollutants.


24 posted on 03/02/2017 9:40:24 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: rktman

A return to common sense. Imagine that.


25 posted on 03/02/2017 9:41:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: struggle

WINNING!

and then there are the ones who are WHINING!


26 posted on 03/02/2017 10:00:30 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: rktman
Trump Orders EPA To ‘Zero Out’ Global Warming Programs

Why patch a colossal waste of time and a budgetary black hole?

End it, don't mend it!

27 posted on 03/02/2017 10:12:31 AM PST by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: jjotto
The theory is that something like estrogen and progestin from female birth control pills end up in the water supply and are pollutants.

The other rational theory is that having giant multiple bureaucratic agencies full of goldbricks "studying" the same problem makes no sense at all...

28 posted on 03/02/2017 10:15:27 AM PST by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: rktman

——They are operating at 1989 staffing levels——

Because most of what is done by the EPA is actually accomplished by contractors


29 posted on 03/02/2017 10:21:15 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: Kay Ludlow

I kinda wondered why the epa wasn’t a subset of the USDA. With a VERY minor role.


30 posted on 03/02/2017 10:24:39 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: jjotto
If they're worried about those, I hope they are also looking into the amount of antidepressants and anti-psychotics in the water. That actually is a significant problem.
31 posted on 03/02/2017 10:43:49 AM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: jjotto

Completely disregarding all the estrogen in almost everything we eat nowadays due to the adding of soy (or soyling our food supply).
C’mon, I dare you to find a food in any restaurant that doesn’t have soy in it somewhere. Or any prepared or partially prepared or mixes, like cake or pancakes.
But THAT estrogen can’t possibly be making its way into the waterways, could it now?


32 posted on 03/02/2017 11:05:16 AM PST by bog trotter
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To: Bob434

What I meant is that under the doctrine of “ultra vires,” any action taken by an agency without authority to do so is void. In other words, if President Trump signs an executive order stripping a particular arm of the EPA from engaging in a specific activity, the people in that agency are no longer legally authorized to engage in the activity. Any attempt they make to do so is considered null and void for lack of authority.

The original comment I replied to indicated that the EPA employees would be slow to implement Trump’s policies. Since his policies are to cease and desist their current activities, it’s not like they can delay doing what they want, it’s that they no longer have the authority to do what they want. Any attempts to pursue policies they’ve been told to stop are invalid.


33 posted on 03/02/2017 11:32:16 AM PST by henkster
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To: rktman

YES!!! I love WINNING!!!

Not tired yet!


34 posted on 03/02/2017 11:33:26 AM PST by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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To: Leep

going to be rough being unemployed in D.C. in the near future.
Fire em ALL.


35 posted on 03/02/2017 11:42:27 AM PST by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: rktman

How about mandating ALL of their actions, including travel,heating,cooling of buildings, etc. Be done only with renewable zero carbon energy?


36 posted on 03/02/2017 11:43:25 AM PST by whodathunkit (PC is the AR of the left)
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To: henkster

thank you for explaining, and legally- that soudns about right- however- lemme break the following down

[[In other words, if President Trump signs an executive order stripping a particular arm of the EPA from engaging in a specific activity, the people in that agency are no longer legally authorized to engage in the activity. Any attempt they make to do so is considered null and void for lack of authority.]]

The republicans always tuck their tail and claim “We’re legally bound because those within the agency acted (contrary to the executive order)- the reason i state this is because obama did several non binding agreements such as Iran- climate agreement- etc that required congressional approval to become law, but he skirted this requirement several times, and legally we’re not bound by those actions obama took, yet -I keep hearing from the right ‘We can’t get out of those actions’ as they wring their hands over the supposed dilemma

In other words- liberals get to break the law- ignore established precedences - and republicans always feel they are obligated to abide by whatever actions liberals take- because they fear the wrath of the msm if they try to actually uphold the law-

I’m very jaded when it comes to republicans having enough of a spine to actually uphold law- or to ‘put their foot down’ and demand that liberals obey the law- I’ve seen them flaunt the law too many times, and I’ve also witnessed the republicans tuck tail and pretend that they are defeated by the flaunting of the law-

We will see what happens if trump issues an EO and the dems ignore it- Will trump bring the law down on their heads if they do ignore it?

[[Any attempts to pursue policies they’ve been told to stop are invalid.]]

That’s all well and good on paper- but again, several actions taken by obama are invalid as well because he didn’t go through proper procedures to make them legally binding- yet republicans are treating those cases as though they are binding agreements that we can’t get out of- and i keep hearing republicans state “It’ very complicated and time involving- to undo what he did’ My question is if there was no binding issue to begin with- why is it so ‘complicated’ to simply do away with those actions? Obama got them through uncomplicated- by ignoring proper procedures-

Meh- I’m just a bit jaded with politics lately- I think if trump tries to enforce an EO over the epa- the left will do what they did with his first rollout of immigration rules-

There’s likely more to it all than we the public realize- but on the surface, it seems that liberals get to flaunt the law, while republicans feel beholdened to them when they do- hopefulyl that will change under president trump


37 posted on 03/02/2017 11:51:57 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

I agree with you.

And don’t forget that the Courts are often complicit in the process. You and I can have the opinion that the agency’s actions are without the force of law as beyond their authority, but at the end of the day it is not so unless a judge says it is.


38 posted on 03/02/2017 12:41:28 PM PST by henkster
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To: rktman

#FakeScience gets the axe!


39 posted on 03/02/2017 1:37:55 PM PST by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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To: Honest Nigerian

The USA, divided into Winners and Whiners!


40 posted on 03/03/2017 3:15:49 PM PST by houeto
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