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To: abb; Grampa Dave; Jim 0216; WildHighlander57; meyer; Repeal The 17th; KC Burke; LucyT
New Evidence - Gravel bed "enabling" Water under Drain Pipe causing SubSurface Bedrock Weathering & Erosion…

New Evidence reveals a better forensic insight into How & Why the Main Spillway likely Failed. Evidence strongly indicates a substantial presence and flow of water below the under slab drain pipe system. This could cause SubSurface Bedrock Weathering (weakening) and potential Scouring Erosion - besides "missing water from some drain section regions, such as where the blowout failure occurred.

The key to this new evidence was from finding a drain pipe under the centerline of the broken Upper Main Spillway. This Pipe "aligns" with its sister "mirrored" drain pipe for the other side/half of the spillway. This "alignment" is exactly where the left half of the upper spillway fractured in the most recent damage of the Upper Main Spillway. A "top view" of the left half of the fractured spillway shows an angled line ("herringbone pattern" angle) that is straight - as would a fracture follow in a "weak" line in the concrete - such as "thinning" by a drain pipe.

What was originally believed to be a "foundation pour" of concrete (prior posting), now reveals as a unique pattern formed by the concrete impressing upon a Polyethylene sheet of plastic (giving it a "smooth" texture in contrast with the rough slab fracture). The actual slab "was" thicker and is angled and emplaced upon the rough leveled bedrock. Since Vitreous Clay Pipe is fragile, the VCP pipe was likely placed upon a layer of gravel material to keep it off of the rough leveled bedrock. The exact composition of this layer of material is not known, but early pictures of the construction of the Upper Spillway reveal a smooth and leveled layer of packed aggregate. IF so, this would enable placement of the VCP pipe upon a smooth surface (packed aggregate). Images DO reveal that there was round rock emplaced around the sides of the Drain Pipe as some of this has been captured from concrete penetration during the slab pour.

A severe shortcoming of the drainage design is that water must flow or jump "upward" from the aggregate base to enable capture within the perforated drain. This jump "upward" could be up to 2.5 inches above the packed aggregate surface if the drain pipe is supported by the larger diameter Bell Coupling connections of the pipe (including the thickness of the wall of the pipe). This means that there is a minimum of 2 to 2.5 inches of downhill waterflow that the drain pipe would miss - i.e. it would flow below the pipe & not be captured. From the start, any water penetrating under the slabs would have a notable "escape" percentage as the Drains would miss its capture.Worse, this waterflow could have penetrated & scoured the packed aggregate base. This evidence is prominent in the images as waterflow "voids" and "seams" are observable.

The sum of these conditions, combined with a single rebar layer at the top of the slab, would be susceptible to the powerful hydraulic forces of "hydraulic jacking" (Stagnation Pressure), and forcing cracks above in the spillway. The thinning of the concrete slab by the emplaced Drain Piping forms a weak zone. Many spillway concrete images show cracks that follow the drain pipe patterns ("herringbone" pattern). During spillway operation, any waterflow deeper into the SubBase rock could lead to erosion in weathered rock. Voids and scouring erosion would place even greater stress on the concrete slab above.

Given the new evidence, the safety factor of the spillway could be calculated as resting upon limiting "hydraulic jacking", by limiting water penetration, and critically depending on the slab anchor bars to retain the spillway integrity against these forces.

Concrete Fractured along Drain Pipe Emplacement. Angles from centerline of spillway. Centerline point is where sister drain pipe meets/aligns heading to the other half of the spillway side.


Right side of spillway Drain Pipe (under slab) - aligns with left side drain pipe fracture line & angles from centerline of spillway.


West Drain Pipe (missing from slab fracture failure) aligns at the center of the spillway at the junction near the East Drain Pipe (circled under the slab).


West Drain Pipe outline created by Pipe + Polyethylene Plastic + round enveloping gravel. Waterflow seams and Voids deeper under Drain Pipe line. Gravel retained from penetrating concrete during pour.


Evidence of water flow region/seam below drain pipe (possible eroded seam) with gravel layer above deeper water flow area.


Evidence of Voids deeper under Drain Pipe (possible source of "water induced" weathering of rock over 40+ years from seepage, wet weather, infrequent spillway use,…). Large pockets of prior or recent weathered base rock may have eroded easily away from recent spillway backcutting.



2,386 posted on 03/10/2017 11:59:24 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

Too bad that we have no photos of a slab break at a drain line.


2,387 posted on 03/11/2017 12:59:27 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: EarthResearcher333; All

Here’s some stuff from over at Metabunk that’s interesting from a 2009 maintenance project

Notice to Contractors
http://www.water.ca.gov/engineering/Contracts/09-14_Notice.pdf

Bid opening report
http://www.water.ca.gov/engineering/Contracts/09-14_Opening.pdf

Bid summary
http://www.water.ca.gov/engineering/Contracts/09-14_Summary.pdf


2,388 posted on 03/11/2017 1:06:17 AM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: EarthResearcher333

Two things I learned on the farm decades ago.

1. Drains should be lower than the area you are addressing. IE, they should of been placed in their own “trench”. No danger of the water having to go up to exit and no thinning of the slab.

2. You don’t use round “river rock” to keep a buried object in place - especially on a slope with a concrete pour over it.

And I am not a civil engineer, just a lowly mechanical engineer.


2,390 posted on 03/11/2017 4:25:48 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Watching Obama tap dance.)
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To: EarthResearcher333; WildHighlander57

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https://weather.com/news/weather/video/floods-bring-gold-rush-to-california?pl=pl-editor-picks

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2,411 posted on 03/11/2017 11:22:23 PM PST by LucyT
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