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To: Lorianne

Good report. There are workarounds for much of the stuff, and he mentions some here:

1) I’ve drilled out the flow restrictor in my sink faucet, and it works great now.

2) Phosphates are a must for clean clothes, but you have to add it separate. For dishes, look up Cascade Commercial Dishwasher Soap, and you’ll find it still has phosphates.

3) For my recently-installed toilet, I extended the tank tube and adjusted the float to nearly double the water flow, works fine now.

4) I haven’t figured out the water heater deal yet, although I haven’t seen any that restrict to 120F, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re out there.

As to not knowing about these changes, he has a point - the EPA prefers to reach ‘voluntary’ agreements with major companies to implement, that way they don’t go under the daylight of federal rule making - that’s how they get phosphates out of dishwasher detergent, and probably explains much of the rest being done so quietly.


8 posted on 01/08/2017 9:36:40 PM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: BobL

My dishwashwer always has to be set to heavy duty/pots and pans; otherwise everything stays dirty.


66 posted on 01/09/2017 3:29:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: BobL

We replaced the 14 yr old to small hot water tank with a tank-less large size, always have hot water now and for as long as we want it. Only issue is the length of water lines in the house still take time for the hot water to reach where it needs to go. Hubby has it set at 140. We pre run the kitchen water before turning on the dishwasher to get the water hot. And use vinegar as rinse agent.

When we moved the efficiency dishwasher in the new house took over an hour and a half, I had hubby exchange the high end crap with the old one from the other house works a lot better, shorter wash cycle.


71 posted on 01/09/2017 4:48:17 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump, not the hrc commie witch.)
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To: BobL

Some of the shower head manufacturers have caught on to our using an 1/8” drill bit. They are making them now where it’s almost impossible to get at the orifice without breaking the housing.


72 posted on 01/09/2017 4:50:49 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: BobL

2) Cascade Commercial DW Detergent was removed from the market...

It has been replaced with Cascade Fryer Boil-Out - It is the EXACT same formula (the original was intended to clean fryers) just renamed to remove the ‘dishwasher’ label.

It’s great stuff and cleans dishes well.


89 posted on 01/09/2017 5:58:43 AM PST by BBB333 (The power of TRUMP compels you!)
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To: BobL

2) Cascade Commercial DW Detergent was removed from the market...

It has been replaced with Cascade Fryer Boil-Out - It is the EXACT same formula (the original was intended to clean fryers) just renamed to remove the ‘dishwasher’ label.

It’s great stuff and cleans dishes well.


90 posted on 01/09/2017 5:59:40 AM PST by BBB333 (The power of TRUMP compels you!)
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To: BobL

I just took out the flow restrictor in my wife’s kitchen faucet and she says she feels like she could wash elephants at the zoo. I drilled out my shower heads over 15 years ago and guests always are amazed at my “water pressure.” I have instructed many comrades on how to fix the problem with the Algore shower heads. Don’t get me started on the Algore toilets and the number of times I have had to plunge them...


96 posted on 01/09/2017 6:56:52 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: BobL

Thanks for the Cascade Commercial Dishwasher Soap reference, been looking for something like that for years.

I’m ordering 2 boxes from Amazon right now.


107 posted on 01/09/2017 8:34:54 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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