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Our culture of purity celebrates the Virgin Mary. As a rape victim, that hurts me.
Washington Post ^ | December 16 | Rev. Ruth Everhart

Posted on 12/18/2016 11:04:46 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Edited on 12/18/2016 11:40:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Almost incoherent. And I think the Reverend needs some serious mental health counseling.


21 posted on 12/18/2016 11:24:09 AM PST by Calvin Cooledge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PCUSA.


22 posted on 12/18/2016 11:24:41 AM PST by PAR35
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I’ve been married 30 years. I was not a virgin. My wife was not a virgin. I would have been concern if she had been promiscuous. But Virginity was never a hindrance.

Some folks need to lighten up.


23 posted on 12/18/2016 11:26:04 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Oh Dear Lord.

This woman has issues.


24 posted on 12/18/2016 11:29:49 AM PST by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The “virgin” in Virgin Mary is to emphasize that Jesus did not have a human father, not that the entire female sex has to maintain their virginity; the species would not survive.


25 posted on 12/18/2016 11:31:21 AM PST by odawg
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

She understands NOTHING about the mystery of the Virgin birth. NOTHING!


26 posted on 12/18/2016 11:34:21 AM PST by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

A body is super convenient for getting around in

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Golly gee! Why yes, yes it is!


27 posted on 12/18/2016 11:35:07 AM PST by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

So Mary is responsible for womens’ rapes? This springs up from the left’s deep-seated hatred for Christianity and desire to eliminate it.
Meanwhile, they actively promote izzlam, which willingly allows its men to rape women and girls.
Insanity.


28 posted on 12/18/2016 11:39:33 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I’ve attended both conservative and liberal Catholic churches and both conservative and liberal Protestant churches.

Overwhelmingly, the consistent lesson I’ve heard from all is to accept God’s plan for your life and make the best of it.

RevMom’s focus on personal pain and personal pleasure is not what I have heard. RevMom is outside all major Christian factions.


29 posted on 12/18/2016 11:51:38 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

It sounds as though the “reverend” may have some mental health “issues”.


30 posted on 12/18/2016 11:52:02 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Attacking a major scripture truth and teaching. Good grief.


31 posted on 12/18/2016 11:54:06 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: madprof98

1 Timothy 2:12New International Version (NIV)

12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.


32 posted on 12/18/2016 12:09:05 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Picking Up the Pieces

In life we are exposed to the reporting of many vile acts.  Most if not all of them we will never have to experience ourselves.  Rape is one such act.  Although I will never know the personal aspects of being a victim of this crime, anyone who is violated in this manner will always have my extreme compassion.   That being the case, it is my duty to try to help them through the pain.  Perhaps a word here...

Many people go away to war and lose one or more limbs.  Sometimes they come back from the war never to be the same again.  Some of them come back with massive disabilites.  What is incredible to me, is the way these folks react to the situation they are left with for life.

Some of these people remain bitter for the rest of their lives.  Some of their family members will be.  This is very understandable for me.  I would state that it is so understandable, that I couldn't imagine a different reaction, and yet, but the grace of God, I have seen people suffer more destruction than I could imagine living through, and still come through it with a smile.  Sometimes it's even half or less of a smile, due to the level of destruction they experienced, but it's there.  You see it and you can't believe it.  You reflect on it and you can't help but have your eyes tear up.  You wind up thanking God for putting you in your place.  On our worst day, losing everything of importance, very few will experience something worthy of prolonged anger over.  I am in awe of these people.

In life I have come to understand that it our choice how we will react to crimes or losses.  I'm certainly no paragon of virtue on this subject.  I have suffered losses.  There were times when it took me years to level out and come to terms with loss.  I'm still dealing with a loss four years in.  I don't know when I'll every be back on an even keel, if ever.  We are all a bit different when it comes to loss.  We may have pockets of real success in dealing with a loss, and pockets of deep despair.  What I have come to understand, is that we choose how big each pocket will be.

My losses don't come within 1/10,000th of those who come back from war maimed.  My losses pale in comparison to the men/women who exprience the intial loss, only to suffer familial losses piled on.  Can any of us imagine those losses?  I think not.  Yet some folks seem to come through it all, still smiling, still thankful for the gift of life, still having hope for the future.  About all I can do when thinking of this, is hang my head in shame.  I need to look at things differently.  I need to choose to.

Innocense is lost to some women before they are ready.  That is very sad to me.  This first experience should be one of the high points of life, shared with someone who takes your breath away in a number of ways.  Stealing it, is one of the most wicked things a man can do.  In time, God will deliver bad news to the persons who inflicted this on a woman.

As men, it is our duty to be kind, loving, and compassionate to the person we love.  Any man worth his salt will learn that the person he cares for most has been a victim of this crime, feeling more love and compassion that he did before.  He will react by being kind, letting her know he is the right man for her.  If he can't, he will have been the wrong many for any woman.

It is the remarkable ability of some women to experience this type of assult, and come through it without being bitter.  Is she becomes pregnant, she may feel her life is over.  It isn't.  There is a life within her.  A chance to love is provided.  A chance to shower a new human will all the love a person can give, is provided.  The miracle of motherhood is not denied to the mother or the child by God.  God knows the circumstances.  He feels the pain.  He understands the feelings.  He still hopes for the best decsion, and will honor the mother if she can see her way clear to be His advocate for this child, as every parent must be for their child.

I make no choices for these women.  I simply offer this up, so that they can gain comfort if they wish to.  Certain aspects of our lives are out of our control.  Few of us have that perfect life.  Mose of us choose to struggle on and make the best of what has become a part of our lives.

Looking into the eyes of an innocent child who is loved, and in turn loves, is perhaps the highest point in our lives.  We should not deny oursleves the ability to experince this, when a less than welcome opportunity comes knocking at our door.

I look at marriage as somthing that isn't perfect.  I look at life that way.  Sometimes I think life is more beautiful considering the things we had to overcome, to become a total success ourselves.  Look at the price we paid, and the way we overcame it.

With regard to marriage or children, the obsticles to happiness can provide the truest sense of happiness when we successfully pick up the pieces and prevail.

It is always our choice too.  God is a just God.  He understands.  He is always there to see us through.
33 posted on 12/18/2016 12:14:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I read the whole piece and had a mixed reaction.

I do understand what she is saying about redemption. We all need that because the flesh is weak and will lead us off the path occasionally.

I have read many accounts of amazing redemption, some of people who’d been dragged back almost literally from the gates of Hell itself. All of them were humble and grateful and I don’t remember a single one of them blaming either Mary or Jesus or God Himself for setting a bar so high that it made them look bad by comparison.

She seems to be unwilling, or maybe just unable, to let go of the violence done to her in her past. The key words are “done to her”. She seems to be fixated on that as a sin of her making and I don’t know why unless there is more to the story than she is telling. She could probably benefit from some professional help.

Regardless, I don’t think this internal moral struggle that still engages her is a good reason to become a pastor. That should be a calling, not therapy to deal with unresolved issues. Same thing with being a psychiatrist. People who can’t face down their own problems shouldn’t be trying to help others to do so.


34 posted on 12/18/2016 12:31:50 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: DoughtyOne

“Sometimes I think life is more beautiful considering the things we had to overcome, to become a total success ourselves”

Absolutely. For some people the obstacles are much higher than others, but they always make you grow as a person.


35 posted on 12/18/2016 12:41:38 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Disgusting how “Christians” try to rewrite Good and Evil as if the Christian culture, which elevated women onto a pedestal like NO other religion did or could, is trying to rewrite the Bible and Human Nature (Reality).

She is lying about history and Christian Theology because of her traumatized, warped perceptions of sex. She should NEVER be allowed to call herself “Christian” when she advocates irrational paganism.

I get so sick of these irrational, emotionally driven “women” who try to deal with Reality (Truth (God)) by warping the meaning and necessity of purity in culture. Even Freud knew that “sexual liberation” destroys the Natural Family—the essential unit of civil societies The Marxists know this also—that to destroy the Male/Female Christian paradigm will reduce us back to the pagan, tribal Man/Boy Love cultures prior to the Rise of Christianity and Reason (Natural Law/Science).


36 posted on 12/18/2016 12:46:34 PM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: COBOL2Java

Did you see the hands on this woman? Talk about man-hands! Is “she” a transgender?

And what she says is borderline blasphemy. It’s surprising God doesn’t strike her dead on the spot.


37 posted on 12/18/2016 12:57:16 PM PST by Jack023
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Confused lesbo?


38 posted on 12/18/2016 1:01:40 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Wordsworth had it right,
Mary is indeed, “our tainted nature’s one proud boast.”


39 posted on 12/18/2016 1:37:38 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Jack023

NO. I noticed that too, but observe, objects in a camera foreground are enlarged by the camera lens.


40 posted on 12/18/2016 2:08:50 PM PST by Daffy
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